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“Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

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Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

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Nothing new here. Less desirable kitties have become important rodent hunting 'barn cats' as long as I can remember. The problem is they tend not to discriminate prey, and decimate already hurting bird populations. The real unspoken issue here is overpopulation, please spay and nuter your pets! /rip bob

Luckily for humanity, Bob Barker is still alive[0].

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Barker

Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

#13

Nothing new here. Less desirable kitties have become important rodent hunting 'barn cats' as long as I can remember. The problem is they tend not to discriminate prey, and decimate already hurting bird populations. The real unspoken issue here is overpopulation, please spay and nuter your pets! /rip bob

The study for the amount of birds they eat made a lot of assumptions so there's doubt on whether it's actually accurate or not. I do agree on the spay / neuter, though. Also it's news because these are cats shelters generally kill

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Behavior problems in dogs are all about training. Behavior problems in cats are mostly about environment, and virtually never about training. A cat really is a mirror of its environment. Most problems arise from pent up energy, group dynamics, clueless Humans, bad toilet placement (yes cat toilet makes the cat happy, as a German saying goes). Lots of space, hunting activity, ability to choose contact at will and a we…

As someone who has dedicated years of behavior modification training a rescue dog with genetic fear aggression (actual clinical diagnosis), I wish we'd get away from the "there's no bad dog, only bad dog owners" dogma. I'd agree with you that the majority of behavioral problems with dogs can be removed or mitigated with training. However, dogs as with all other species have their temperament spread a long a distribution - and the outliers rarely survive their first 2 years, and those how find the right owners who can provide the right training and management still will never live a normal household dog life.

Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

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I used to work with a cat and I was quite amazed at his contribution to software development. This cat lived a few hundred yards away from the office and there were multiple gates and doors for him to get through. Often he would start work before anyone else, often he would want to work late. He chose my desk rather than the sixty or so others to work at. He was very adept at using a mouse, however, this would not be like how most 'people' use a mouse. Essentially he would stretch out, see the mouse move on the screen, then reposition himself so the mouse would move again. It looked like he was moving the mouse properly but he was just reacting to his own actions. Quite incredible to see a cat 'using' a computer like so, engaged with the screen and convincingly moving the mouse.

His contributions to software development were many. One thing this cat worked out that no Apple/Microsoft/Ubuntu software engineer managed to notice was that repeatedly holding down the 'Print Screen' button would permanently immobilise a computer, making a reboot required. Try it for yourself - the multitude of dialog boxes builds up and makes the computer not usable. This is also the case if the computer is locked, on Ubuntu (and maybe Windows) the dialog box still pops up on pressing 'Print Screen' at the login prompt.

I would say that the H.R. department also liked the cat as on any tour given to a new employee the introductions would be made. At least one of my colleagues joined the company because they liked the cat friendly working environment. So he was definitely a hit for recruitment and retaining employees.

There certainly was no rodent problem but I was on the side of the mice and have prised his jaws open on a few occasions to let some terrified creature escape to die from shock a short while later.

To get to the office this cat would take a stroll through an artist's studio. One time he arrived covered in pink, orange and grey paint. He had ruined a painting that was due to be sent to a posh gallery in New York. As it turned out a lot of people wanted to buy that particular painting as it had been 'improved' by the cat, so it sold for an absolute fortune, unlike the rest of the collection. The paint lasted quite a long time on him as it was oil based. This was one of many legendary stories concerning this hard working cat, he also stowed away on a boat and went missing for a fortnight, eventually making his way back home all by himself.

His actual owners had a fireplace showroom as part of their building business, so this cat chose our office over his own 'workplace' where he had a dozen or so fireplaces to sprawl out in front of. Needless to say he did a good job of selling the fireplace lifestyle to people too.

I think there were a good half dozen or so elderly ladies that he would check up on so another of his roles was as a care worker. Without his visits they would have not had as much exercise and contact with 'people', they would let him in but shun human 'care workers' so he did take his care work seriously.

This cat did have actual staff, so the handyman would go to a posh supermarket to buy fresh king size Icelandic prawns for him on a daily basis. If the prawns were a day old then he would turn his nose up and dine out on mice.

As for his hunting skills, his agility was a mix of Houdini and those oriental style martial art films. His breaking and entering skills were tantamount to magic. He could also move mid-air in a way that defied physics, making 90 degree turns mid-leap. He defended his territory and as well as keeping the vermin down he would teach dogs who was boss. Once he broke up a fight between two dogs giving both of them bloody noses, intervening where no human dared.

He also made timely entrances in company meetings, once when the boss was called to the front this cat decided that he should spring forward and beat him to the stage. This had everyone in hysterics.

In North London there is a special cemetary for working animals, I would like to go there some time. There are ship's cats from previous wars, pigeons from WW1, servicemen's dogs and other remarkable working 'animals' buried there. Recently they renovated the place and had a 'fly by' of pigeons which I would like to have seen. I think my feline friend has contributed enough to be worthy of a place there when the time comes in eight lives' time...

Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

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HUGE cat lover here. Dogs are great too but a lot of work. No point to make, just a fun anecdote:

Growing up in the country, some of my earliest memories are of my older brother, my little sister, and me sneaking down to the barn to discover new kittens, and excitedly telling our mother.

Cue weeks of sneaking down and snatching fat little kittens and carrying them around loving them.

Plus, they would hunt and keep mice out of the barn. Useful AND adorable.

Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

#18

Behavior problems in dogs are all about training. Behavior problems in cats are mostly about environment, and virtually never about training. A cat really is a mirror of its environment. Most problems arise from pent up energy, group dynamics, clueless Humans, bad toilet placement (yes cat toilet makes the cat happy, as a German saying goes). Lots of space, hunting activity, ability to choose contact at will and a we…

As someone who has dedicated years of behavior modification training a rescue dog with genetic fear aggression (actual clinical diagnosis), I wish we'd get away from the "there's no bad dog, only bad dog owners" dogma. I'd agree with you that the majority of behavioral problems with dogs can be removed or mitigated with training. However, dogs as with all other species have their temperament spread a long a distribut…

The spirit behind the phrase "no bad dogs, just bad dog owners" fits very well with your example.

Your dog is not bad, and its owner (you) are also not bad.

Now, if you took your dog, who you know to have behavior issues to a home and locked him in with some kids...then you are now the bad owner.

You are smart and caring enough (thank you!!) to recognize and properly handle your dog.

Your dog is not bad, he is just a dog.

Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

#19

Behavior problems in dogs are all about training. Behavior problems in cats are mostly about environment, and virtually never about training. A cat really is a mirror of its environment. Most problems arise from pent up energy, group dynamics, clueless Humans, bad toilet placement (yes cat toilet makes the cat happy, as a German saying goes). Lots of space, hunting activity, ability to choose contact at will and a we…

A dog's parents, grandparents, and all ancestors for the last n hundred years may have been selected for their ability to grab something and shake it until it's neck breaks.

This isn't the fault of the dog, but also not always fixable by training.

Re: “Unadoptable” shelter cats get second chance at life by chasing mice

#20

I used to work with a cat and I was quite amazed at his contribution to software development. This cat lived a few hundred yards away from the office and there were multiple gates and doors for him to get through. Often he would start work before anyone else, often he would want to work late. He chose my desk rather than the sixty or so others to work at. He was very adept at using a mouse, however, this would not be…

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