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Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

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Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

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post #85

As an aside & question - I hate this slim, light goal. What I want is a thick phone with a battery that can stand heavy use for at least 24 hours (preferably changeable), and doesn't really need a case. To me it doesn't make sense to see this obsession with tiny phones that most people put cases on. To be fair, the Razr 3 had good battery life and couldn't have a case, but in this world: Anyone have suggestions?

Dumb phone or smart phone? CAT makes some rugged android phones.

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#92
post #85

As an aside & question - I hate this slim, light goal. What I want is a thick phone with a battery that can stand heavy use for at least 24 hours (preferably changeable), and doesn't really need a case. To me it doesn't make sense to see this obsession with tiny phones that most people put cases on. To be fair, the Razr 3 had good battery life and couldn't have a case, but in this world: Anyone have suggestions?

Most recent phones dont have replaceable batteries unfortunately. Still, some options to consider:

- AGM X2

- Doogee S60

- Zebra TC75x

have large battery capacity.

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#93
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used an old-style phone a few years back. Some things I had forgotten about: - syncing contacts to the phone is near impossible - typing on t9 is slowwwww - setting up MMS etc is a PITA - no apps even for things like driving directions, simple web searches, voice recordings, Spotify

Can you not copy contacts to Sim and then copy to the new phone? I remember doing that with multiple dummy phones before I bought my first smart phone.

I’m sure you can, I could never figure out how on the device I had

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#94
post #71

In 2003, industry best selling and flagship Razr cost $500 In 2018, Apple's flagship iPhone cost ( starts ) $999. I still don't know what to make of those "numbers". A lot fo jobs outside of Tech Sector had lower salary now in real terms than in 2003, and housing price are many times of those in 2003.

Ok, but the new iPhone has a huge screen, great browser, email, 64gb ram, > a million apps, 40x the radio bands, 30x the resolution, 3x the battery, 100x the speed, video, and more.

Not only that, but it has replaced other devices. The modern flagship cell phone is a great value when you realized it replaces the digital P&S camera, the video recorder, the music player, and for some uses the computer.

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#95
post #75

"The RAZR was the first phone to recognize that cellphones [...] were on the tipping point to becoming fashion accessories" Meanwhile, Siemens bet (and lost) a whole sub-brand of absurd design experiments on the idea of phones becoming fashion accessories. Xelibri had all the boldness and cluelessness of a teenager getting killed climbing up a power line pole to impress the girls. Xelibri were truly "phones that shou…

Don't forget the monumental flop of the Microsoft Kin. $500,000,000 on development, only 500 sold.

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#97
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nokia has revamped its classic phones https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/classic-phones

They are not the same. Even though Nokia is infamous for not being able to produce a solid smartphone platform that would actually attract app developers, their feature phones (and Sony Ericsson's, too) were always known for having more finished, polished and faster UX when compared to competition like Siemens and Motorola. The Nokia-branded feature phones produced during Microsoft's ownership and ones produced curre…

Having a mix of Perl and Batch files, using the Symbian C++ dialect did help on that.

But the platform was actually getting quite good before the burning platforms memo thanks to PIPS and Qt, oh well.

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#98
post #85

As an aside & question - I hate this slim, light goal. What I want is a thick phone with a battery that can stand heavy use for at least 24 hours (preferably changeable), and doesn't really need a case. To me it doesn't make sense to see this obsession with tiny phones that most people put cases on. To be fair, the Razr 3 had good battery life and couldn't have a case, but in this world: Anyone have suggestions?

I agree with you wrt the battery, but I would prefer to put an aftermarket case on a more fragile phone than to buy a rugged phone that supposedly doesn't need a case.

Both are going to be badly scratched up if dropped on or dragged across a rough surface. A cheap aftermarket case, though, is much easier to replace than the backside of a phone. In other words, a replaceable case has many of the same benefits as a replaceable battery.

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#99
>“The scale of the hit of RAZR is hard to comprehend. Charles Dunstone of Carphone Warehouse ordered a quarter of a million in pink. We thought he was mad, this was a third of the global projected sales. He wanted this crazy volume of the “boys” phone to sell to girls in the UK. We gave him exclusivity on the pink colour. When he sold 3 million we bought the non-UK rights back.”

Reading this makes me wince at the monoculture. I can imagine the meetings; "You mean women are a major part of the mobile phone market? And they spend money on high quality design? And some men like pink too? Oh, and you are saying some women don't? Here, let me write this down, this stuff is out there."

Re: Motorola Razr V3 Cellphone: The trend-setter that shouldn't have existed

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2003, for most people, the flagship Razr cost £99, or nothing. You were paying £20 or £30 a month for mobile service in a contract that gave you a new phone every 12 months. No benefit or discount for not taking an upgrade when it was available.

And 80% of the monthly fee was for the phone, not the service. Plans without a bundled phone are much cheaper.

> Plans without a bundled phone are much cheaper.

And were not widely available at the time...

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