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Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by clubm8 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #77
mooreed wrote: post #15

Chromium Ungoogled repo [1] made it to the `top30` some days ago. I too have switched back to Firefox with the release of Quantum and have been very pleased. Frankly, I am amazed every day that Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, & DDG.co are as good as they are. (aka: slightly inferior to Google regarding product polish, but truly "good enough" 98% of the time - without selling my future data down the drain) (edited: to fi…

Available in Homebrew Cask as "eloston-chromium" (Though frankly, if you're using a Mac, Safari should be your browser of choice, if only for privacy reasons.)

>(Though frankly, if you're using a Mac, Safari should be your browser of choice, if only for privacy reasons.)

What privacy protections does Safari have that Firefox doesn't? (Keeping in mind the vast extension store - I include extensions like NoScript within the umbrella of "Firefox")

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by eudora »

I'd strongly suggest people create separate users in the browser, one for daily, one for Google, one for Facebook.

This way in my regular browsing there's no Facebook or Google cookies reporting on what websites I visit.

It's really easy and doesn't impact at all on workflow, if you want your Gmail you just click the user button, and click Google. You could even set that user's homepage to Gmail.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by eudora »

mooreed wrote: post #15

Chromium Ungoogled repo [1] made it to the `top30` some days ago. I too have switched back to Firefox with the release of Quantum and have been very pleased. Frankly, I am amazed every day that Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, & DDG.co are as good as they are. (aka: slightly inferior to Google regarding product polish, but truly "good enough" 98% of the time - without selling my future data down the drain) (edited: to fi…

I really want to use Firefox on Android, but I need a couple things:

Desperately need the scrolling in Firefox to feel like scrolling in the rest of the apps.

And I would very much like easy tab switching by swiping across the title bar thing, and the new tab/new incognito/back button behaviour.

Pls Moz pls

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

#105

Post by david_ar »

Chrome is a platform for client-side Google services.

As the article says, the web browser is the most obvious component, but it also includes Google Cloud Print [0], Google Talk/Hangouts [1], Google Earth [2], Google Music [3], Gmail Offline [4], etc.

In some sense it's the spiritual successor to Google Desktop [5], which used to fill a similar role.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Cloud_Print

[1] https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2014/10/notification-re...

[2] visit https://www.google.com/earth/ in a browser other than Chrome

[3] https://support.google.com/googleplaymusic/answer/4627259

[4] https://support.google.com/a/answer/139154

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by interfixus »

Seeing its provenance, I have never considered Chrome or Chromium an option for daily use. The same way I have never been tempted to create a Gmail - or indeed any kind of Google - account.

Still mystified why such huge numbers of people - also among the well informed - find it a worthwhile trade handing over the generality of their life to this monolith in return for some perceived marginal gains in speed og useability or whatever.

No, I don't use the search either, and I block their Analytics snooper, whichever guise it appears in (font, tagmanager, gstatic etc. etc.).

It's eminently doable. So call me a luddite.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by dannyw »

crazygringo wrote: post #56

I had an instinctual gut reaction against this, because it really does feel like it crosses a line between browser and content that shouldn't be crossed. BUT -- I know a lot of regular (non-technical) users who are terrified of logging into shared/public computers with their Google accounts, because they can't tell the difference between logging in/out of Gmail and logging in/out of Chrome, and they've experienced/he…

But I don't want to be signed into Chrome. I want search history, but I do not want Google to have my web history.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by dannyw »

kentonv wrote: post #64

I feel like there's some implied assumption here that this change lets Google do something evil that they couldn't do before, but I don't really see what. If you're logged into Google properties (independent of browser), Google can already track you across most of the internet, via their Ads and Analytics embedded in a rather large percentage of web sites. If you don't want Google to track you on non-Google web sites…

Not if you have an ad blocker, that blocks analytics and advertising beacons.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by dannyw »

I'm very upset at this.

I use an ad blocker to block analytics and advertising beacons.

I want to be signed into gmail and google properties, but not Chrome. I don't want my history to be sync'd to Google's servers for advertising.

Now you can't use Chrome if you want your privacy anymore.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

#110

Post by edoceo »

eudora wrote: post #104
mooreed wrote: post #15

Chromium Ungoogled repo [1] made it to the `top30` some days ago. I too have switched back to Firefox with the release of Quantum and have been very pleased. Frankly, I am amazed every day that Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, & DDG.co are as good as they are. (aka: slightly inferior to Google regarding product polish, but truly "good enough" 98% of the time - without selling my future data down the drain) (edited: to fi…

I really want to use Firefox on Android, but I need a couple things: Desperately need the scrolling in Firefox to feel like scrolling in the rest of the apps. And I would very much like easy tab switching by swiping across the title bar thing, and the new tab/new incognito/back button behaviour. Pls Moz pls

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