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Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by saiya-jin »

user812 wrote: post #39

The new Google Chrome design with version 69 marked the beginning of a new era – Google wants to portray Chrome as something that is way more than a browser. They want you to see it as the primary interface of the web. This is what the average user wants. All complex functionality has been put in the background. Cross-platform integration has been perfected. Give it a year and users around the world will no longer th…

Well the more some for-profit company wants me to push around to their vision of the future and milk me for more and more data from my private life, the more I will resist. It comes naturally, doesn't it for you?

It is a good browser, it may be even the best for some things, but it ain't so good compared to rest I will stop using Firefox, especially on mobile.

The more they push, the less I use their services (openstreet|opentopo, duck).

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by k__ »

jdeibele wrote: post #36
k__ wrote: post #11

Switched back to Firefox with container tabs half a year ago and I'm pretty happy with it.

Agreed. Mozilla has a special container just for Facebook and I use that. Other people have made similar special containers for Google, etc. but I don't trust them as much as Mozilla. So I use one container for Google properties (gmail, YouTube, etc.), a different one for social networks other than Facebook (Twitter, Reddit, etc.), and a third for shopping (eBay, Amazon, etc.) You can teach Firefox to always open cer…

Multi-Account Containers is from Mozilla too.

As far as I know, Facebook Container is just more comfortable to use.

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/multi-account-co...

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by jasonjayr »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #27
pishpash wrote: post #17

Syncing Chrome across devices has long rendered the point moot. If you wanted syncing you were already logged in to the browser. If you didn't want syncing, there was no reason to use Chrome.

And yet Firefox has sync too.

But you can sync w/ your own server, with a little extra work.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by gondo »

user812 wrote: post #39

The new Google Chrome design with version 69 marked the beginning of a new era – Google wants to portray Chrome as something that is way more than a browser. They want you to see it as the primary interface of the web. This is what the average user wants. All complex functionality has been put in the background. Cross-platform integration has been perfected. Give it a year and users around the world will no longer th…

Did Google really defeated Apple on iOS devices?

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by dredmorbius »

user812 wrote: post #39

The new Google Chrome design with version 69 marked the beginning of a new era – Google wants to portray Chrome as something that is way more than a browser. They want you to see it as the primary interface of the web. This is what the average user wants. All complex functionality has been put in the background. Cross-platform integration has been perfected. Give it a year and users around the world will no longer th…

Sources on any of this?

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by user812 »

gondo wrote: post #44
user812 wrote: post #39

The new Google Chrome design with version 69 marked the beginning of a new era – Google wants to portray Chrome as something that is way more than a browser. They want you to see it as the primary interface of the web. This is what the average user wants. All complex functionality has been put in the background. Cross-platform integration has been perfected. Give it a year and users around the world will no longer th…

Did Google really defeated Apple on iOS devices?

When I think about it, no.

People make the decision between different ecosystems, and Apple and Google are the biggest. Apple has a tight control over Safari on iOS. Safari has been defeated on Desktop though.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by mehrdadn »

mooreed wrote: post #15

Chromium Ungoogled repo [1] made it to the `top30` some days ago. I too have switched back to Firefox with the release of Quantum and have been very pleased. Frankly, I am amazed every day that Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, & DDG.co are as good as they are. (aka: slightly inferior to Google regarding product polish, but truly "good enough" 98% of the time - without selling my future data down the drain) (edited: to fi…

Do you not encounter problems with video codecs when using Chromium?

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by dredmorbius »

Karunamon wrote: post #34
JoshMnem wrote: post #23

> [googlers] were wondering why the new behaviour might feel abusive to some people. That says something about how out of touch Google is at the moment.

I daresay this comment might apply more to us than to Google. To 99% of people, these features are useful and helpful, with the downsides being mostly philosophical or theoretical.

"Not immediately apparent" is neither theoretical nor philosophical.

It's sufficiently reliable a behaviour, however, that it's eminently bankable. Most especially in Silicon Valley's surveillance capitalism world.

Data are liability. They're long-term toxic waste. But as with earlier forms of toxic waste, they return profits to those who ignore, conceal, or confuse as to the true deferred costs.

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by user812 »

dredmorbius wrote: post #45
user812 wrote: post #39

The new Google Chrome design with version 69 marked the beginning of a new era – Google wants to portray Chrome as something that is way more than a browser. They want you to see it as the primary interface of the web. This is what the average user wants. All complex functionality has been put in the background. Cross-platform integration has been perfected. Give it a year and users around the world will no longer th…

Sources on any of this?

"With a smarter Chrome, you will be able to do more than just look at a webpage. Imagine searching on Chrome for a singer you just heard, and having Chrome show you not just their bio, but also their upcoming concert near you and where to purchase tickets. With AI, Chrome will also better understand what you’re trying to get done, and help you do so faster. Vacation planning typically requires juggling multiple tabs and open documents. But as Chrome evolves to better understand what tasks you’re trying to get done, it can help manage all this complexity for you as you switch back and forth between hotel research and booking flights.

When we first launched Chrome, Sundar said: “We think of the browser as the window to the web.” A decade later, it’s still the tool people use to access all of the websites and applications that help them do what they want to do. As Chrome heads into the next 10 years, we want to expand that window—so you can see more and do more."

- https://www.blog.google/perspectives/rahul-roy-chowdhury/hap...

Re: Chrome is a Google Service that happens to include a Browser Engine

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Post by [deleted] »

djanogo wrote: post #38
buro9 wrote: post #32

Many years ago I shared that I browse across several browsers, separating usage depending on the site I am visiting. + Gmail, Drive, Google Calendar = Chrome + Sites I trust = Firefox + Sites I do not know or trust = Firefox Private browsing (or Firefox Focus on Android) This involves cautiously copying links from browser to browser, and if I make a mistake I have a scorched Earth policy of the history and cookies. T…

I used to this do exactly, but switching to Firefox containers made Chrome redundant. Chrome uses too much memory to leave it running just for few websites, and Google including analytics script as builtin library was the last straw.

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