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Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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Is he related to some keyboard keymap?

No, that's August Dvorak - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Dvorak

They are, however, related:

"nephew of sociologist and creator of the Dvorak keyboard, August Dvorak"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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While Dvorak's right that it was a shabby way to end things, it very well may be that PC Mag is on its way to shutting down. Note that the screenshot of the email notifying him indicated they were going to 'put all outside columns on hiatus.' That sounds like pure cost cutting to me.

Is Tim Bajarin still a columnist for PC Mag? Wayne Rash? Whitson Gordon? Brent Johnson?

No idea. Assuming those are all 'outside columns' (I don't know as I haven't read PC Mag in years), it seems like the veracity of the story Dvorak's been told will become clear very soon.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Tim Bajarin still a columnist for PC Mag? Wayne Rash? Whitson Gordon? Brent Johnson?

No idea. Assuming those are all 'outside columns' (I don't know as I haven't read PC Mag in years), it seems like the veracity of the story Dvorak's been told will become clear very soon.

They're listed as Columnists (as opposed to Contributing Editor, which means you're an employee), have non-pcmag.com (unlike all of their other authors) email addresses in their Author Bios on PC Mag's site and with one exception (a twice-yearly contributor anyway) they all have published PC Mag articles within the last week. Moreover, they all have full-time jobs which are not at Ziff Davis.

Knowledge is power.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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First they came for the bat-shit crazy conspiracy theorists, and I did not speak out because I was not a bat-shit crazy conspiracy theorist.

Uh huh... that poem had more than one line, and if it started with your version the response would broadly be, “get back to me in a few lines and I’ll start fighting.” Even the fallacy you’re invoking is a slope and not a cliff . The republic isn’t going to implode because Alex Jones can’t use PayPal. Now if the government were throwing him in jail for what he said, I’d grudgingly support his right to be a bloviating…

I highly recommend reading Frederick Douglass' "A Plea for Freedom of Speech in Boston." It was written after he was deplatformed by protesters shouting him down while he was trying to give a speech. It talks about how he thought it was good enough that the government could not block his speech and how wrong he was about that.

Obviously Jones is no Frederick Douglass, but the culture of deplatforming/censorship is a dangerous one nonetheless.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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Uh huh... that poem had more than one line, and if it started with your version the response would broadly be, “get back to me in a few lines and I’ll start fighting.” Even the fallacy you’re invoking is a slope and not a cliff . The republic isn’t going to implode because Alex Jones can’t use PayPal. Now if the government were throwing him in jail for what he said, I’d grudgingly support his right to be a bloviating…

I highly recommend reading Frederick Douglass' "A Plea for Freedom of Speech in Boston." It was written after he was deplatformed by protesters shouting him down while he was trying to give a speech. It talks about how he thought it was good enough that the government could not block his speech and how wrong he was about that. Obviously Jones is no Frederick Douglass, but the culture of deplatforming/censorship is a…

Let’s make a deal, when they start to come for the modern equivalent of a Frederick Douglass, I’ll care, and we’ll still be high up on the list with plenty of time to fight. Until then this feels a lot more like a slippery slope fallacy, and not a sound argument. After all the poem is all about how many chances for intervention were passed by, not that only ideological absolutism can prevent tyranny.

Not to mention that despite attempts to silence him, Douglass was ultimately successful and still remembered.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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If you need your JCD fix, he does a bi-weekly podcast with Adam Curry called No Agenda. [0] [0]: http://noagendashow.com

They don't have advertisers (listener funded) so they're able to sift through the news in a reasonably balanced way.

Each show also has crowd-sourced, listener produced podcast album art that's generated about an hour after the show airs live.

Try listening to the noagendashow at 2X speed to start.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly recommend reading Frederick Douglass' "A Plea for Freedom of Speech in Boston." It was written after he was deplatformed by protesters shouting him down while he was trying to give a speech. It talks about how he thought it was good enough that the government could not block his speech and how wrong he was about that. Obviously Jones is no Frederick Douglass, but the culture of deplatforming/censorship is a…

Let’s make a deal, when they start to come for the modern equivalent of a Frederick Douglass, I’ll care, and we’ll still be high up on the list with plenty of time to fight. Until then this feels a lot more like a slippery slope fallacy, and not a sound argument. After all the poem is all about how many chances for intervention were passed by, not that only ideological absolutism can prevent tyranny. Not to mention t…

Who gets to decide who is a Frederick Douglass and who is an Alex Jones? What makes you feel so confident that you will be on the right side of history when the modern Frederick Douglass is deplatformed?

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s make a deal, when they start to come for the modern equivalent of a Frederick Douglass, I’ll care, and we’ll still be high up on the list with plenty of time to fight. Until then this feels a lot more like a slippery slope fallacy, and not a sound argument. After all the poem is all about how many chances for intervention were passed by, not that only ideological absolutism can prevent tyranny. Not to mention t…

Who gets to decide who is a Frederick Douglass and who is an Alex Jones? What makes you feel so confident that you will be on the right side of history when the modern Frederick Douglass is deplatformed?

When that modern Frederick Douglass is deplatformed, we can talk, instead of this hysterical “when the world ends where will you be?!” shit. If you have something more than slippery slopes to offer, and comparing Alex Jones to Frederick Douglass, I’m all ears, otherwise, have a good day.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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I read this guy back in the 90s. I think he put down mp3s. I think I emailed him and told him he was on the wrong side of that.

Dvorak's greatest hits: "nobody wants a mouse", "Steve Jobs going the way of pet rocks", "cable modems are a dead end", "the mac is dead", "ipod is a niche product", "wikipedia is a dead end", "podcasting is a dead end", "linux is a dead end", "time to short apple", "the iphone's a flop", "ipad's a flop", "apple watch's a flop", etc.

or that time he couldnt put back together idiot proof IBM PS/2 desktop.

Re: John Dvorak: “Yesterday I was fired from PC Magazine”

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea. Assuming those are all 'outside columns' (I don't know as I haven't read PC Mag in years), it seems like the veracity of the story Dvorak's been told will become clear very soon.

They're listed as Columnists (as opposed to Contributing Editor, which means you're an employee), have non-pcmag.com (unlike all of their other authors) email addresses in their Author Bios on PC Mag's site and with one exception (a twice-yearly contributor anyway) they all have published PC Mag articles within the last week. Moreover, they all have full-time jobs which are not at Ziff Davis. Knowledge is power.

> (as opposed to Contributing Editor, which means you're an employee)

It might mean that at PC Mag, but it definitely does not mean that on other magazines. In fact, at most publications it refers to someone who is not an employee. For more, see [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributing_editor

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