Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by asaph » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 6:50 AM UTC

Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple
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Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by batteryhorse » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 7:55 AM UTC

If I were you I'd send them a cease and desist letter

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by fredley » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:05 AM UTC

It's cool that Apple's using your stuff, it's not cool they're not giving you attribution.

I'd add a JGuitar url and copyright notice to all your images, so that this is displayed in Apple's results, and also call a lawyer.

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by geoah » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:06 AM UTC

batteryhorse wrote: post #2

If I were you I'd send them a cease and desist letter

Why? Just out of pure hate or dislike for apple? A request to show a link to the website under the image would be better imo.

He could always play dirty and just print the website on the bottom of the image but I don't see how this or the c&d will help his site.

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by fredley » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:08 AM UTC

geoah wrote: post #4

batteryhorse wrote: post #2

If I were you I'd send them a cease and desist letter

Why? Just out of pure hate or dislike for apple? A request to show a link to the website under the image would be better imo. He could always play dirty and just print the website on the bottom of the image but I don't see how this or the c&d will help his site.

I don't see why putting your url on your own content is 'playing dirty', but displaying someone's stuff without telling them you're doing it or even attributing it sure is.

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by geoah » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:09 AM UTC

fredley wrote: post #3

It's cool that Apple's using your stuff, it's not cool they're not giving you attribution. I'd add a JGuitar url and copyright notice to all your images, so that this is displayed in Apple's results, and also call a lawyer.

I really don't get why people suggest lawyers and c&d letters as step 1.

Yes apple could have done this better and they should -- but why not just have a chat with apple before you go nuclear?

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by fredley » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:13 AM UTC

geoah wrote: post #6

fredley wrote: post #3

It's cool that Apple's using your stuff, it's not cool they're not giving you attribution. I'd add a JGuitar url and copyright notice to all your images, so that this is displayed in Apple's results, and also call a lawyer.

I really don't get why people suggest lawyers and c&d letters as step 1. Yes apple could have done this better and they should -- but why not just have a chat with apple before you go nuclear?

I agree, I'm not saying they should engage in litigation, just that talking to a lawyer to understand exactly where the law stands on such behavior is probably going to be useful when it comes to talking to Apple, particularly if they don't respond.

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by clintonc » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:13 AM UTC

geoah wrote: post #4

batteryhorse wrote: post #2

If I were you I'd send them a cease and desist letter

Why? Just out of pure hate or dislike for apple? A request to show a link to the website under the image would be better imo. He could always play dirty and just print the website on the bottom of the image but I don't see how this or the c&d will help his site.

This is as though Apple were hotlinking his images -- they are being consistently used in a setting besides that which was originally intended, without permission (or even attribution).

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by GrumpyNl » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:32 AM UTC

I dont get it, he should be extremely happy by what they did. Free advertising, free traffic, its like getting a nr 1 result Google. All i read here is, get a lawyer. He should be celebrating.

Re: Thanks for the Surprise Integration with My Website, Apple

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Post by aequitas » Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:36 AM UTC

geoah wrote: post #6

fredley wrote: post #3

It's cool that Apple's using your stuff, it's not cool they're not giving you attribution. I'd add a JGuitar url and copyright notice to all your images, so that this is displayed in Apple's results, and also call a lawyer.

I really don't get why people suggest lawyers and c&d letters as step 1. Yes apple could have done this better and they should -- but why not just have a chat with apple before you go nuclear?

I think a lot of people feel that if it was the other way around (people using Apple copyrighted material) they would get a lawyer on their ass in no time.

However it is debatable since Apple is 'only' providing a template/example which the user must actively turn into a 'shortcut' to have this functionality. Or at least that's how I understand this feature works.

Then again, I think Apple surely could do a better job in attribution toward the sources. Maybe a standard for website owners to provide meta info with a fallback to the website URL.