The only question I got is: why we as humans cannot fix this by having a proper calendar system that actually reflects the world and does not have these flaws?
Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
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Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#82> Weeks start on Sunday in the United States, Monday in Europe, and a couple of places start on Saturday. Wow. I live in Europe, and find it weird that people can consider the week to start on Sunday. I guess everything that may appear normal within a cultural frame of reference can be off in another, even the most basic of things!
What is the relevance of saying that a week starts on a particular day? In the most common usage, the "week" starts on Monday in the United States, and concludes on Friday, to be followed by the "weekend". A calendar week of 7 days does start on Sunday, but who cares? If they changed how the calendars were printed, life would be different in no way.
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you want is probably TAI [1], Unix Time has leap seconds. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time
The one mistake with UNIX is that UTC is used. It should have been TAI, and leap second adjustment should have been handled by the timezone package (but at the time people weren't worried about leap seconds, so it's understandable). As it is, the system clock has to change . This is as bad as MSDOS time (and other systems which put localtime into the actual RTC). Using UTC as the time reference, independent of local…
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#84I invented this very regular calendar while I was writing recurring-scheduling software for a scheduling tool: https://calendars.wikia.com/wiki/6*6*10_regular_calendar It was my fantasy escape from the crazy irregularities of the Gregorian calendar.
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#85> Weeks start on Sunday in the United States, Monday in Europe, and a couple of places start on Saturday. Wow. I live in Europe, and find it weird that people can consider the week to start on Sunday. I guess everything that may appear normal within a cultural frame of reference can be off in another, even the most basic of things!
What is the relevance of saying that a week starts on a particular day? In the most common usage, the "week" starts on Monday in the United States, and concludes on Friday, to be followed by the "weekend". A calendar week of 7 days does start on Sunday, but who cares? If they changed how the calendars were printed, life would be different in no way.
For instance, if I were to tell you "Beginning of next week, I'm gonna X", you'd understand Monday, correct?
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#86The only question I got is: why we as humans cannot fix this by having a proper calendar system that actually reflects the world and does not have these flaws?
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#87I really dislike the tone these sort of things tend to take, which is “here’s some stuff you think but you’re wrong about.” The reason people get stuff like this wrong (and names, and addresses, and and and) is because it’s really hard to get right. And it’s added difficulty on top of writing code which is already pretty challenging.
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#88I really dislike the tone these sort of things tend to take, which is “here’s some stuff you think but you’re wrong about.” The reason people get stuff like this wrong (and names, and addresses, and and and) is because it’s really hard to get right. And it’s added difficulty on top of writing code which is already pretty challenging.
Knowing it’s complex, the next step is to get help, not hack up your own solution.
I liked the tone... sort of a “can you believe this?!”
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#89Lets propose a new time format we could count the number of exoseconds since the beginning of the universe. Then convert that number to whatever native time format we want. Store that as a number and use that for conversion. Age of universe 4.415×10^17 seconds, 4.415×10^26 exoseconds
Re: Insane complexity of calendrically correct date and time operations
#90> Weeks start on Sunday in the United States, Monday in Europe, and a couple of places start on Saturday. Wow. I live in Europe, and find it weird that people can consider the week to start on Sunday. I guess everything that may appear normal within a cultural frame of reference can be off in another, even the most basic of things!
Netherlands reporting in. My parents always taught me that the week starts on Sunday.