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Re: Flutter Release Preview 2

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Post by samstave »

megaman821 wrote: post #7
joobus wrote: post #4

How confident can anyone be basing a core product on flutter given Google's history of abandonment?

I am especially nervous about Flutter since they don't even have to abandon it. If they don't keep pace with new OS releases, there is no great way to recoup your investment in Flutter. You are just stuck without an outdated looking app or forced to do a full rewrite in the native frameworks.

"technical-horizon debt"?

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Post by jimmcslim »

Wait, Dart is still a thing? Can I write Flutter apps in any other language? I've had a look at a few pages to understand which language Flutter uses, but it hasn't mentioned Dart yet (apart from the .dart extension in the Getting Started example).

Sorry, yes it does - 'Dart language and core libs'.

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Post by rohan1024 »

hayksaakian wrote: post #2

Are there any apps in the wild that I can install which use flutter? I'm curious to know how it feels from a user perspective. Stats and benchmarks are neat but I'd really want to try it firsthand to know that it's "Fast".

In addition to flutter's own showcase you can also view flutter apps at https://itsallwidgets.com/

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Post by benatkin »

joobus wrote: post #4

How confident can anyone be basing a core product on flutter given Google's history of abandonment?

This is something that makes google look better, because not only is it a tool that seems like it has enough momentum that it won't get abandoned, it also brings a forgotten Google product, the Dart programming language, back into the limelight.

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Post by monkmartinez »

I am moving away from Google as fast as I can in most areas. Every time I bird-dog one of their products I am ultimately let down. There is no way I can trust anything they build at this point. I wish it were different as they have some really good ideas, they are just the worst when it comes to follow through for the long haul.

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Post by MarkMc »

tananaev wrote: post #5

Are those SO popularity comparison numbers real? If they are, I feel they were somehow artificially inflated. I have nothing against Flutter, but I don't think at this point it's as widely used as Xamarin and React Native. For Angular numbers should be even higher.

I don't know where they got those numbers. This graph seems more realistic to me [edit: maybe not - see subcomments]:

http://sotagtrends.com/?tags=[ionic-framework,react-native,f...

That is, Flutter is shooting up and overtaking Xamarin but still only half the popularity of React Native. This also roughly correlates with mentions on Google Trends:

https://g.co/trends/y9Z8q

On job websites React Native is way ahead - which you would expect given React Native's headstart. For example, www.jobstreet.co.id currently has 43 jobs for "React Native" but only 5 for "Flutter".

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Post by timsneath »

MarkMc wrote: post #17
tananaev wrote: post #5

Are those SO popularity comparison numbers real? If they are, I feel they were somehow artificially inflated. I have nothing against Flutter, but I don't think at this point it's as widely used as Xamarin and React Native. For Angular numbers should be even higher.

I don't know where they got those numbers. This graph seems more realistic to me [edit: maybe not - see subcomments]: http://sotagtrends.com/?tags=[ionic-framework,react-native,f... That is, Flutter is shooting up and overtaking Xamarin but still only half the popularity of React Native. This also roughly correlates with mentions on Google Trends: https://g.co/trends/y9Z8q On job websites React Native is way ahead -…

Hi there, the source for these numbers is the StackOverflow API. Just to clarify, the chart we have in the blog is showing question _views_, not questions tagged. There are more questions for other frameworks still (since they're more mature technologies), but we're seeing lots of views of questions tagged with Flutter.

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Post by rohan1024 »

Are you frustrated with the way Android apps are developed? Tired of amount of time to get simple list working? Writing lot of boiler plate code only to update list from a dialog box? Ever got scared of implementing a navigation drawer or a fragment? Did you left Android development because the time and code to implement it was way greater than expected? Tired of handling life cycles?

Sorry for being dramatic but if you answered yes to any of those give a try to Flutter! You will be surprised of how fast you can develop an app for mobile with descent UI. Thank me later!

Re: Flutter Release Preview 2

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Post by MarkMc »

hayksaakian wrote: post #2

Are there any apps in the wild that I can install which use flutter? I'm curious to know how it feels from a user perspective. Stats and benchmarks are neat but I'd really want to try it firsthand to know that it's "Fast".

I've found that if you are using an older phone then you will certainly notice that Flutter is not as smooth as a native app. However, I know the Flutter team have made a lot of progress with performance so it may not be so bad.

Three largish apps you can try are:

1. The Alibaba app:

Alibaba app for Android → http://bit.ly/2NQJcMX Alibaba app for iOS → https://apple.co/2NjVGxf

2. The Hamilton (musical) app - search Hamilton on Play Strore or App Store

3. The inKino movie database app. The source code is available here: https://github.com/roughike/inKino

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