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Elon Musk has evaporated the public's trust in him.
Shill reporters and publications have their fair share of the blame, too.
Citation needed. Elon trashed his name well enough on his own.
Dear Moon
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#232"Some kind of celestial event. No — no words. No words to describe it. Poetry! They should have sent a poet. So beautiful. So beautiful... I had no idea."[0] What a beautiful sentiment. This humanizes space travel. I really hope the team succeeds on this mission, even with delays. As a kid, I always felt a sense of awe reading about space and space travel. Now I am in grad school and lost that feeling of awe along th…
We began as wanderers, and we are wanderers still. We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars. Carl Sagan, Cosmos
Must watch: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3c1QZzRK4
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#233What a shame that such a unique opportunity is wasted on such a mediocre curator. This nouveau-rich collector could have sent a curator of renown in his place rather than making the project all about himself. Aside from the fact that he obviously lacks experience or any actual taste, it's widely considered unacceptable for any curator to highlight themselves in their work in this way. The exhibition is and should be…
I cannot fathom why you find it so necessary to constrain discovery. None of us knows what these artists will create after their flight. You think they'll do nothing beyond what they've done before. I think they might be inspired in ways we can't foresee. I'm pleased those who are in position to do this are doing it. Maybe it'll be a bust. Maybe nothing new will come of it. Maybe they'll all die in a fireball at laun…
> I cannot fathom why you find it so necessary to constrain discovery.
In turn, I cannot fathom why the face and money behind this project finds it so necessary to constrain discovery by prescribing the outcome in advance.
> I'm pleased those who are in position to do this are doing it. Maybe it'll be a bust. Maybe nothing new will come of it. Maybe they'll all die in a fireball at launch or during re-entry. Maybe the resulting art will eclipse Picasso.
Yes, this would be an interesting framing for the project!
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Yup, and it's vulgar and deserves to be condemned. Moreover, museums don't allow the donors to curate the exhibitions, and artists do not mention their patrons in their work. Art is in fact a system with established rules, which reflect good sense, and this collector is very much operating within that framework, just tastelessly.
> Moreover, museums don't allow the donors to curate the exhibitions, and artists do not mention their patrons in their work. Portrait of Lorenzo de' Medici, Duke of Urbino (1492-1519). Raphael https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/raffaello-sanzio-cal...
You have posted a link to a work for sale at an auction house. Perhaps I'm missing part of the context here?
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#235What a shame that such a unique opportunity is wasted on such a mediocre curator. This nouveau-rich collector could have sent a curator of renown in his place rather than making the project all about himself. Aside from the fact that he obviously lacks experience or any actual taste, it's widely considered unacceptable for any curator to highlight themselves in their work in this way. The exhibition is and should be…
Yeah, well, it's his money to spend.
And it's my right to critique him for the manner in which he spends it, since he has chosen to publicize it.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Moreover, museums don't allow the donors to curate the exhibitions, and artists do not mention their patrons in their work. Portrait of Lorenzo de' Medici, Duke of Urbino (1492-1519). Raphael https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/raffaello-sanzio-cal...
You have posted a link to a work for sale at an auction house. Perhaps I'm missing part of the context here?
The part where its a painter painting a painting of his patron?
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have posted a link to a work for sale at an auction house. Perhaps I'm missing part of the context here?
The part where its a painter painting a painting of his patron?
Ah, sorry – quite obvious upon inspection! Yes, I will concede that there was a time when this sort of thing was a regular practice and I could have clarified that here I'm speaking about art in the modern context. Perhaps there are artists in the past 100 years who somehow involve their patrons in their work, but this is quite apart from what we witness with this project – the patron, dignifying himself sans-artists or art.
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> as if a painter or a musician is going to see something different from a regular astronaut A scientist, after years of training, can look at a physical system, break it down into its component parts, figure out how to model each part using mathematics, synthesize the models, and then do experiments to confirm the overall model. An artist, after years of training, can look at a scene from twenty different perspectiv…
I think you're assuming a lot more intent from my comment than there was. I don't think scientists are better than artists or vice versa. I don't think any two people experience life in the same exact way. I didn't say artists "do nothing interesting." However, an artist and a scientist are going to see literally the exact same thing when they pass by the moon (barring any medical conditions, e.g. Van Gogh). That's w…
> However, an artist and a scientist are going to see literally the exact same thing when they pass by the moon
But only the artist will be able to paint it into a beautiful work that can be a cultural icon for centuries.
> It's not a prerequisite to see or touch something to be able to conceive of its emotional impact.
No, but it absolutely helps.
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#239I hope the musician they choose isn't a pop artist like Justin Bieber or Cardi B. that would just be such a waste lol.
John Adams !
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
The questioner asked "is it more or less than 5%" -- I don't think they were confirming 5%, just repeating the number back (and Musk refused to say anything about the percentage at all).
MZ said he wished it was (only) 5%, perhaps indicating the desire to see more billionaires stepping up to the plate.
He said, "I'm happy with just 5%, thanks for the rocket."