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Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by clairity »

nikofeyn wrote: post #336
clairity wrote: post #295

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> "Android has better UX..." ruhr? i have both an android and an ios phone, and i'm comparatively amazed at how bone-headed android UX can be. it's also a hot bed of paralysis-of-choice (in both apps and in settings/configuration). sure, ios has issues here and there, but (to me) ios is generally more intuitive (==better UX).

you didn't exactly give any counterexamples. yes, android's settings menus have a lot and are relatively poorly organized, but so are ios settings. but in terms of apps, i find android much more intuitive than ios. on android, there is basically a universal back button, in position and in behavior, that always seems to just work. not so on ios, where i am constantly wondering how do i go backwards from where i'm at.…

don't get me wrong, there are some things i like about android, like the am/fm radio chip being accessible and having a wireless router built in (i have an LG phone).

but the radio is a good example of the frustrating UX -- you can't use the radio without wired headphones to act as the antenna. you can't even plug in the wired headphones and then used wireless headphones for output.

apple actually makes sure the common use cases are well designed (and chooses to preclude less common ones to reduce that paralysis of choice problem), while android seems to be trying to check as many boxes as possible on a spec sheet.

closing apps on ios is a double-tap and a swipe or two swipes, depending on your phone. on my android, it's hitting a small, unintuitive square symbol and then hitting a small 'x' icon--both of which require more precision than on ios.

the lack of a youtube overlay in ios is a limitation imposed by google. ios has picture-in-picture mode but google won't implement it for ios for competitive reasons.

as for gestures, both android and ios have non-discoverable gestures, but i think ios's gestures are more intuitive overall. as in, once you find the gesture, you go "oh right, that's exactly what i would have expected that gesture to do there." i don't always have that satisfaction on android.

this, of course, is how i experience the two operating systems, so i'm not trying to discount your experience.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by abalone »

teknologist wrote: post #352
abalone wrote: post #200

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Also several of the iCloud services are E2E encrypted and designed to withstand adversarial clouds. They talked about it at Blackhat.[1] Doesn't help things like mail or photos, of course, but it is extremely notable in the China context for one big reason: it does E2E encrypt messages. WhatsApp was banned from China when they implemented this. Apple stands out in this way... although they're probably getting away wi…

I suspect that there might be undiscovered software differences between iPhones sold in China and those sold in other markets. The Flag of the Republic of China (Taiwan) is not present on iPhones sold in China. It shows up as a box with a question mark in it.

If you're implying they secretly disabled iMessage encryption for the China locale: No Friggin Way. That would be discovered and publicized instantly.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by mattnewton »

raydev wrote: post #350
mattnewton wrote: post #219

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Right, and that’s back-doored by the Chinese government (in China). So neither fits gp’s desired featureset of local & frictionless.

Evidence of back door?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh...

The encryption keys for Chinese users are stored in China, and the government has full access to data and keys on those servers as per Chinese law. Maybe “backdoored” is the wrong word since they can walk in the front door.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wmblaettler »

craftyguy wrote: post #328
kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

> on-device intelligence The fuck does that have to do with privacy? That's an incredible vague thing they are saying. Does it decide what is/isn't 'private' information for sharing? It just seems way out of context, and odd, to be mentioning in the same sentence.

In part, I would think they are referring to CoreML, onboard machine learning framework.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wmblaettler »

colinramsay wrote: post #342
xal wrote: post #126

After installing it, head to https://purecycles.com/products/urban-commuter-bike to see the best feature. Placing 3D models in your house via ARKit right from Safari. Writeup on this Shopify rollout: https://www.shopify.ca/blog/shopify-ar

I see the ability to overlay a transparent image over what I’m seeing through my camera. Am I missing something?

It does plane detection and can place a 3d object on that plane, scaled accordingly. You can move the phone around the plane (floor, tabletop, etc) and the object stays fixed as if it were physically in that place. The 3d object is also textured and takes into account ambient lighting to shade it. The result is actually rather impressive!

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by denimnerd »

stqism wrote: post #314
denimnerd wrote: post #82

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it’s not in waze beta yet either though

On Friday they pushed a uuid beta/submitted testflight beta, according to their latest email. I just got a waze testflight update today, so I'm assuming that was what was pushed.

yup just got the email earlier today too

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by teknologist »

abalone wrote: post #362
teknologist wrote: post #352

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I suspect that there might be undiscovered software differences between iPhones sold in China and those sold in other markets. The Flag of the Republic of China (Taiwan) is not present on iPhones sold in China. It shows up as a box with a question mark in it.

If you're implying they secretly disabled iMessage encryption for the China locale: No Friggin Way. That would be discovered and publicized instantly.

Not to venture into conspiracy theory territory but the fact that they have the capability in software to modify the phone's behaviour based on which country the device was sold in is concerning enough to me. The Chinese gov. can put pressure on these large multinationals that rely on China's workforce and those companies can't do a great deal about it other than comply.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by greedo »

headsoup wrote: post #311
greedo wrote: post #226

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Android phone CPUs are so far behind Apple's A12 it's not even worth debating.

Sounds like it is worth debating, please, provide the argument that demonstrates such a gap.

https://9to5mac.com/2018/06/01/a-series-chip-benchmarks/

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by zoltaan »

sctb wrote: post #266
zoltaan wrote: post #181

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In case you really do not understand please google 'disable ios update notifications' (note the hit count), or alike. (you must have limited experience in iOS despite of your long time exposure)

Please don't be personally thorny towards other users. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Do you want to suppress my perception? The tone of the answer was in tune of the reply, if one was thorny, the other too. You may choose to see that the other user was intentionally ignoring common knowledge to pick condescending tone, but you chose not to. You should not be arbitrarily partial. Thanks!

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by Rjevski »

chatmasta wrote: post #262
Rjevski wrote: post #32

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Can’t you just select US sad your country when setting up the iCloud account and use a VPN? Or are Chinese devices different at the hardware level and only allow connecting to the Chinese (compromised) iCloud?

You need a payment method with a billing address in the country.

I believe there are tricks you can use to bypass that (attempting to download a free app?).
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