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Re: Dear Moon

#191
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I was pretty skeptical when I heard that private citizens booked a flight on Falcon Heavy. When those plans got shelved and these popped up, I had a similar level of skepticism. I expected it to be some random celebrity that wanted to go on a fancy tour. This is anything but that. I feel more than humbled to be wrong. Bringing a ton of artists on a once in a lifetime trip for inspiration purposes is selfless, compass…

> on a once in a lifetime trip AFAIR, Burt Rutan said he wasn't that keen to watch Apollo-11 landing because he assumed it's soon going to be routine. So far it wasn't. But why do you think it will not become more routine - perhaps a lot more routine - this time? Surely one can't count on that - but we do can dream and we do can bring some of our dreams to reality, even though we aren't always good with predicting wh…

There's literally (yes, literally literally) nothing there on the Moon, and going there costs more than going to the Mariana Trench.

No, it will not become more routine.

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I believe you have to have good taste and take it from there. [1] [1] Ira Glass quote: > Nobody tells this to people who are beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you…

Sturgeon's law: 90% of everything is crap. Ironically, or fittingly, I've been reading a comprehensive collection of his short stories, because it was impressed on me early in my life that he was a great author, and I have recently been horrified at how terrible many of his more obscure ones are. The interesting thing is that the quality does not simply improve with time and experience. There are extreme outliers.

Weird question: I've been trying to find a short story I read years ago, which I think is by Sturgeon. Is there any chance you have run across it?

In it, an engineer is brought into a war zone, where giant tank-like creatures are on the edge of overrunning the front lines. The lines must be maintained in a cave system to keep extracting a valuable mineral. The generals keep pressuring the engineer for weapons, but he wants to understand the problem first. After lots of analysis, he directs the troops to destroy a certain structure. Within days all the tank creatures die. Then the engineer explains that the cave system is actually the inside of a caterpillar on a cosmic sized leaf, and the tank creatures were its immune system. Killing the caterpillar allowed the troops to loot the caterpillar's body in peace.

Ever heard of it? I'm not sure that my memory is completely accurate.

Re: Dear Moon

#194
post #111

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> on a once in a lifetime trip AFAIR, Burt Rutan said he wasn't that keen to watch Apollo-11 landing because he assumed it's soon going to be routine. So far it wasn't. But why do you think it will not become more routine - perhaps a lot more routine - this time? Surely one can't count on that - but we do can dream and we do can bring some of our dreams to reality, even though we aren't always good with predicting wh…

There's literally (yes, literally literally) nothing there on the Moon, and going there costs more than going to the Mariana Trench. No, it will not become more routine.

I agree, mostly. As noted on a recent This American Life episode (also referenced elsewhere in this thread, https://www.thisamericanlife.org/655/the-not-so-great-unknow...), the most interesting thing to see on the moon is the Earth.

Re: Dear Moon

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post #111

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> on a once in a lifetime trip AFAIR, Burt Rutan said he wasn't that keen to watch Apollo-11 landing because he assumed it's soon going to be routine. So far it wasn't. But why do you think it will not become more routine - perhaps a lot more routine - this time? Surely one can't count on that - but we do can dream and we do can bring some of our dreams to reality, even though we aren't always good with predicting wh…

There's literally (yes, literally literally) nothing there on the Moon, and going there costs more than going to the Mariana Trench. No, it will not become more routine.

> There's literally (yes, literally literally) nothing there on the Moon

Not entirely true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_situ_resource_utilization#M...

Re: Dear Moon

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Perhaps in terms of absolute expenditures, but unlikely anything like it in terms of bang for the buck.

You might reserve that evaluation for a century or two. Arguably, we're still cruising on the de Medicis' and Borgias' investments in the arts.

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Re: Dear Moon

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Seriously, Barack Obama? I'm neither republican, not democrat, but you've got to be kidding me with that recommendation. He was a politician, through and through. Yes, the first black one, but aside from that he presented very little that was materially difference from previous politicians. Just being first at something, given the random nature of the universe, isn't enough to wow me. Your ability to make things happ…

> isn't enough to wow me I wasn't creating a list of people that wow you, or even a list of people that wow me. The metric was "how many people did this person inspire in a positive way?" and Barack Obama undeniably did that by being the first black POTUS.

Oh, okay, sorry I didn't realize that the bar was so low to make your list! If that's the case, why stop at Obama?

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2017/8/justin-biebe...

Re: Dear Moon

#198
post #5

Wouldn't it be easier to train astronauts to be artists than to train artists to be astronauts?

The point is to end the constraint that only astronauts can go to space, to open it up to everyone.

That's already happened with commercialized trips to the ISS.

Re: Dear Moon

#199
post #87

Honestly, this is beautiful. Let's fucking do it. No seriously...let's do it. We're humans - this is the kind of funny, beautiful, impossible stuff we can uniquely do. Capital allocation? Bleh, don't be so boring and uninspired!

How much of your capital do you plan to allocate? And do you plan to allocate any of mine (i.e., the taxpayer)?

Spending money on space actually has a very high return for the Earthlings.

Re: Dear Moon

#200

If only humanity has spent the same energy, vision and resources on what's happening on f-ing planet earth, things could have looked very different...

Take a deep breath, go outside, get off of social media. Things are not as bad as you think.
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