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The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by bitcuration »

Fundamentally, RSS is supposed to be a tool to deal with information overflow yet it failed.

The demand is how to get the content of what you want and when you want in the quickest and easiest way.

Social networks, Tweets, FB, RSS subscriber, flipboard etc. all attempted despite the Ad revenue must be taken care along the way, yet none has really met the demand.

Do you get news from your friends, or subscribe people, or visiting sites? To me it is as much as mundane as 20 years ago when internet started. The problem has been resolved except many have made tons of money while tackling it. The fundamental problem remains unresolved and still waiting for answers.

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by ehnto »

wenbin wrote: post #83
ehnto wrote: post #43

I still use RSS to power my little podcast syndication platform. While I was building it I did notice it had become harder to find a poscasts RSS feed but they definitely all still used it. I suspect it is used more as a business to business/platform to platform transport these days. Certainly beats building thirty API integrations for people who want to roll their own syndication for their podcast.

You can find the rss feeds of (almost) all podcasts in the world here: https://www.listennotes.com/ Or use the API: https://www.listennotes.com/api/

Awesome! It looks like you are the creator, I have some questions regarding licensing and copyright I have had trouble finding the answer to.

As the episodes are syndicated it seems reasonable to "rebroadcast" the episode on your site, but the terms and conditions for many podcasts (example 99 Percent Invisible) seem to suggest that is breaching their usage rights.

Have you looked into this at all and did you find similar issues?

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by nreece »

bartvanH wrote: post #161
nreece wrote: post #20

RSS never died. On the contrary, its usage for content aggregation & monitoring has been increasing over the years, specially in the business world and niche markets. I'm speaking from my own experience running Feedity - https://feedity.com , a growing startup that helps with custom feeds for unstructured sources like webpages.

As a user of feedity I'd just like to take a moment to say Thanks!

Hey thanks!

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by e15ctr0n »

guybedo wrote: post #48
guybedo wrote: post #25

I might be biased here as i've built a news aggregator/RSS reader ( https://aktu.io ) but imho RSS was and still is the best way to get news from sources you like. This is so obvious when you compare RSS to social platforms... I mean Facebook was great to share stuff with your friends and get updates but now it's become a huge mess where you get a little bit of everything, you're not even sure you'll ever see all the…

by the way, i'm trying with Aktu to improve the RSS experience, well at least mine :-) I've always missed a few things that i tried to add to the platform. I mostly wanted to reduce the noise in my feeds and i also wanted to have a way to be exposed to news outside my feeds. So i built Aktu in a way that same-story articles are automatically grouped together, which helps reduce the noise: instead of having 10 article…

Hey, just looked at Aktu and I was very impressed with the great job you've done! How long have you been working on it? What's the tech stack you're using? Would love to hear the details.

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by clacke2 »

jwilk wrote: post #126
clacke2 wrote: post #117

> Maybe RSS could have been extended somehow so that friends subscribed to the same channel could syndicate their thoughts about an article to each other. @dang Congratulations, you just invented OStatus. :-) OStatus is a combination of Atom+ActivityStreams+Salmon+WebFinger+WebSub for exactly this purpose. It was created in 2009 and was even partially used by Google Buzz. I could post something on identi.ca and see i…

dang?

Seems to be one of the people responsible for the article:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18003343

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by clacke2 »

jonnytran wrote: post #171

> He pointed out that Twitter was basically a better RSS feed, since it could show you what people thought about an article in addition to the article itself. It allowed you to follow people and not just channels. This is why I absolutely LOVED FriendFeed. Not only could you follow arbitrary RSS feeds and FriendFeed users, but you could group feeds into "imaginary users". This was great because you could follow anyon…

Friendica is still alive and can do this!

It's primarily microblogging-oriented, but you can subscribe to any RSS feed too. And users (including RSS feeds) can be grouped, so you could have one group "tech feeds", one group "cat accounts" etc.

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by kakarot »

pouta wrote: post #110
kakarot wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use RSS for webcomics as well as visiting the actual websites, but a few things: 1. You miss out on the aesthetics each comic's website brings to the table 2. Sometimes you miss things like "hidden panels" or blog posts you're interested in. 3. No advertisement money going towards the artists (Not a big deal if you support them by buying merch and the comics don't need a lot of bandwidth) I would really love to dev…

I'm up for it

Happy to start discussing it and see where it goes. What's the best way to reach you?

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by rcxdude »

nsriv wrote: post #169
rcxdude wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how I use RSS as well. I wound up writing my own self-hosted RSS reader which is extremely simple and supports this workflow.

Any chance you've open-sourced this solution? I've been looking for something self-hosted for ages.

It can be found here: https://github.com/rcxdude/nobsrss

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Post by jwilk »

clacke2 wrote: post #185
jwilk wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dang?

Seems to be one of the people responsible for the article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18003343

dang is a HN moderator. This comment is about the HN submission, not about the original article.
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