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Re: Dear Moon

#161

Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

spiralganglion wrote: post #154
daeken wrote: post #2

This may go down in history as the most amazing (and maybe most expensive) art project of all time. I am just flabbergasted; this is astounding. I sincerely hope that the BFR comes to fruition in the way SpaceX has been billing it, and reasonably close in terms of timeline.

This is an "art" project because of the media/domains involved, but it's not an art project. It's very low-brow, but not the sort of independent low-brow that bursts with charm and zeal. It's too transactional, too structured, too contextualized, and too eagerly public. At best, this sort of big-money, one-off commission leads to the Teleharmonium and EPCOT and the Saatchi gallery, not Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area.…

I had a friend like you once. On seeing someone just for a brief moment, she could comment for hours, saying things like "This person will never be rich", "Oh, she definitely has bad relations with her husband", "Obviously he's the kind of person that will fail every project". It turned out that most of her predictions that I could verify turned out false. She got some gut feelings and choose to follow that, but the data sample at her disposal was too small and she jumped to the conclusions way too fast.

Re: Dear Moon

#162

Post by HeadsUpHigh »

avmich wrote: post #111
Shank wrote: post #17

I was pretty skeptical when I heard that private citizens booked a flight on Falcon Heavy. When those plans got shelved and these popped up, I had a similar level of skepticism. I expected it to be some random celebrity that wanted to go on a fancy tour. This is anything but that. I feel more than humbled to be wrong. Bringing a ton of artists on a once in a lifetime trip for inspiration purposes is selfless, compass…

> on a once in a lifetime trip AFAIR, Burt Rutan said he wasn't that keen to watch Apollo-11 landing because he assumed it's soon going to be routine. So far it wasn't. But why do you think it will not become more routine - perhaps a lot more routine - this time? Surely one can't count on that - but we do can dream and we do can bring some of our dreams to reality, even though we aren't always good with predicting wh…

Why not? Whatever price this guy paid is a 1-off for NRE costs. It won't be that expensive in the future anyway.

Re: Dear Moon

#163

Post by HeadsUpHigh »

nerdbaggy wrote: post #21

Are they actually going to the moon if they are only going to orbit it? Sorry my English isn’t the best

Only a free return trajectory. If they where to land they would have to refuel it which would further delay the mission.

Re: Dear Moon

#164

Post by HeadsUpHigh »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #79
austenallred wrote: post #30

Astounding. I don’t care what you have to say about Elon Musk’s flaws; he’s the most inspirational human to have lived in the past fifty years. I am unabashedly a SpaceX fanboy.

Nelson Mandela? Barack Obama? Martin Luther King Jr? Neil Armstrong? Bill Gates? Stephen Hawking? Steve Jobs? Rosa Parks? Elon would be lucky to make the top ten.

>Barack Obama

Obama is good with words but other than being the first black POTUS I don't see what inspiring thing he did.

>Bill Gates

Depends on who you ask. Bill Gates also caused a lot of damage in the tech world in my opinion and pushed us back many decades in software evolution.

>Steve Jobs

Who in their right minds would choose a marketing sociopath as an inspiring figure? Seriously, every person I know that views Steve Jobs as their idol is a jackass in some way.

I agree with the rest though. I'd put Musk up there with them simply for the fact that what he is doing with companies just flies in the face of so many modern assumptions of what a corporation is.

Re: Dear Moon

#165

Post by stesch »

I have the feeling this should be bigger. This was 03:00 localtime for me and I expected to wake up to headlines about the moon everywhere.

But even here it vanished from the front page. No trends (Germany) on Twitter or YouTube. No top news on news sites.

My "friends" on Facebook aren't talking about it. My twitter timeline only has tweets from the obvious accounts (SpaceX, Elon Musk, …) about it.

What happened?

Re: Dear Moon

#166

Post by isostatic »

function_seven wrote: post #147
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a suburb outside a city in Australia and see half a dozen Teslas when I walk to the park with my kids. It's absolutely mind blowing how far and fast they've reached.

Ha. If you were looking to win the "farthest from San Francisco" game, I think you just did. It is amazing, isn't it? There's no guarantee that TSLA will still be around in ten years, but I bet their cars will be, along with the industry that was forced into existence by a non-incumbent player.

Well technically this one wins: http://www.whereisroadster.com

Re: Dear Moon

#167

Post by mmustapic »

consz wrote: post #5

Wouldn't it be easier to train astronauts to be artists than to train artists to be astronauts?

Surprised no one mentioned it already. Alexey Leonov, first man to perform a space walk, is also an artist. He penciled an orbital sunrise during that mission.

Re: Dear Moon

#168

Post by igravious »

spiralganglion wrote: post #154
daeken wrote: post #2

This may go down in history as the most amazing (and maybe most expensive) art project of all time. I am just flabbergasted; this is astounding. I sincerely hope that the BFR comes to fruition in the way SpaceX has been billing it, and reasonably close in terms of timeline.

This is an "art" project because of the media/domains involved, but it's not an art project. It's very low-brow, but not the sort of independent low-brow that bursts with charm and zeal. It's too transactional, too structured, too contextualized, and too eagerly public. At best, this sort of big-money, one-off commission leads to the Teleharmonium and EPCOT and the Saatchi gallery, not Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area.…

Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area ?

Schiele or Baraka or I-Be Area ?

An expressionist painter (now dead), a non-narrative movie-length documentary by someone who still lives, a series of deranged surreal video shorts also by someone living.

The only thing that unifies those three things is that you used them in a sentence together.

Can I play?

Tanguy or Man with a Movie Camera or Dead Mall Series !

Did I win‽

Re: Dear Moon

#169

Post by stepik777 »

stesch wrote: post #165

I have the feeling this should be bigger. This was 03:00 localtime for me and I expected to wake up to headlines about the moon everywhere. But even here it vanished from the front page. No trends (Germany) on Twitter or YouTube. No top news on news sites. My "friends" on Facebook aren't talking about it. My twitter timeline only has tweets from the obvious accounts (SpaceX, Elon Musk, …) about it. What happened?

Time has changed. There is just too many information now - news, memes, TV shows, music, etc. And this is just another news in an ocean of other news. People are going to the Moon, cool, now lets check out what that Instagram celebrity that I'm subscribed to has just posted.

Re: Dear Moon

#170

Post by nopriorarrests »

adtac wrote: post #8
consz wrote: post #5

Wouldn't it be easier to train astronauts to be artists than to train artists to be astronauts?

Can you even train artistic talent? Doesn't it require a natural gift that you're born with? Not to belittle astronauts, but space travel training is more teachable than true art.

There was an anti-soviet joke popular among soviet intelligencia 60-70 years ago.

"Before the revolution, Tula province only had one writer - Leo Tolstoy. After the revolution, Tula province has 100 writers, all of them card carrying members of Soviet Writers Union; so situation with literature is now 100 times better".

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