ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts • Hacker News Board

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#51

Post by Felz » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:00 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #8

There are two reasons I'm still with Google for mail at this point: Inertia, and cost. The former is pretty easy to understand. The latter has more to do with the fact that I have a private domain for our family and I've been using Google Apps since the days when it was free. If I want to convert to another service like ProtonMail then I'm either going to tell a bunch of people in my family to pay up (with all the ac…

I'm curious what you'd think a reasonable price point would be. For context, I'm currently trying to set up a paid email hosting company because $50 a year seemed a bit ridiculous to me, and it seemed like it could be done a lot cheaper.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#52

Post by gammateam » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:08 PM UTC

nunobrito wrote: post #35

gammateam wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protonmail requires a credit card, your phone number, and javascript, while harping on about their privacy and Switzerland insulation. What about crypto, no javascript and no phone number? Free email providers do the no javascript and no phone number thing. It is like trying its hardest to collect your information It reminds me of Nigerian scammers, they intentionally say ridiculous things to weed out people smart en…

This is false. I've paid Protonmail using bitcoin and that is all that was needed.

how?

I just did the $4 plan right now, and it is asking for credit card, paypal. I do see the possibility of a gift code.

what am I missing here

also the captcha is not a possibility when I last tried over TOR. it was SMS only

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#53

Post by levosmetalo » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:09 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #39

Hoefner wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out https://connect.yandex.com

I seriously doubt that a Russian-hosted option is going to be of interest to anyone outside of Russia.

If you are concerned about TLA agencies having access to your data, Russian servers look like a very good choice.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#54

Post by move-on-by » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:19 PM UTC

I like ProtonMail. It does what I need it to within the free option. I have a domain name that I forward to my ProtonMail, so I'm not really worried about lock-in. I have slowly been moving my accounts over away from Google Inbox. Now that Inbox is going away, I'm about to kick the transfer into high-gear. I don't care to re-learn the 'new' Gmail when I was already invested in Inbox.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#55

Post by move-on-by » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:29 PM UTC

mattkevan wrote: post #49

ProtonMail was a bit expensive for me, so recently switched from Gmail to Soverin [0]. Based in the Netherlands, costs less than $4 per month for 25gb storage on a custom domain. Also have a Roundcube web interface, but smtp is fine. [0] http://www.soverin.net

Doesn't look like they have Zero-access encryption. My guess is that they can save money on storage though mass marketing emails that share the same contents, attachements, etc.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#56

Post by akavel » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:40 PM UTC

levosmetalo wrote: post #53

huhtenberg wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seriously doubt that a Russian-hosted option is going to be of interest to anyone outside of Russia.

If you are concerned about TLA agencies having access to your data, Russian servers look like a very good choice.

Umm, concerned about TLA agencies, you say; then how about FSB?

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#57

Post by eikenberry » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:42 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #8

There are two reasons I'm still with Google for mail at this point: Inertia, and cost. The former is pretty easy to understand. The latter has more to do with the fact that I have a private domain for our family and I've been using Google Apps since the days when it was free. If I want to convert to another service like ProtonMail then I'm either going to tell a bunch of people in my family to pay up (with all the ac…

Just as someone who has done a decent amount of research on what would be the best/cheapest way to host my family email... I found that runbox.com had the best deal. You pay more for a base/master account w/ a custom domain ($35/yr and up) then you pay a lesser amount for sub-accounts ($8/yr and up). It quickly overtakes the 2-3/mon/account rates that the other providers cost.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#58

Post by vasili111 » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 9:43 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #39

Hoefner wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out https://connect.yandex.com

I seriously doubt that a Russian-hosted option is going to be of interest to anyone outside of Russia.

I think the Russian-hosted option also should not be considered by anyone inside Russia other that Russian government.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#59

Post by DEADBEEFC0FFEE » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:04 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #32

maltalex wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about Zoho? Their free offering comes with support for custom domains and something like 20 accounts. As a bonus, you can choose between Zoho.com and Zoho.eu. Both offer the same services, but Zoho.eu is hosted in Europe ender the protection if the various privacy and data protection laws.

Thanks, I will take a look. At first blush it seems like things have changed and the free offering isn't what it used to be -- 5 accounts not 20, and as someone else mentioned, perhaps no custom domain. But it's worth looking into, because at first glance their lowest paid option fits my general requirements and is only $36/year/user, which is less than ProtonMail.

Yes, it's a few bucks cheaper, but for me Protonmail has that security focus that I worry Zoho don't have. Zoho also provide many other spaid services and that makes me worry about what they have to focus on. Exciting features vs boring security.

Re: ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

#60

Post by notyourday » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:06 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #8

There are two reasons I'm still with Google for mail at this point: Inertia, and cost. The former is pretty easy to understand. The latter has more to do with the fact that I have a private domain for our family and I've been using Google Apps since the days when it was free. If I want to convert to another service like ProtonMail then I'm either going to tell a bunch of people in my family to pay up (with all the ac…

I'm pretty speechless. $50/year is twenty seven point oh two (27.02) cups of startbucks small coffee a year for a family.

Do people truly think that's expensive for email hosting?! Honestly, no wonder Facebook and Google keep trampling with the so called "rights" of people successfully by peddling "free stuff" -- even those in tech paid six figure salaries think fifty dollars for essential communication for a year for multiple people is expensive.