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Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by zoltaan »

jen729w wrote: post #148
zoltaan wrote: post #143

Damn! There comes the bullying of upgrading. :( I am sure they want the best for us when they shove it down our throat.

“Shoving it down your throat” would mean that you had no choice but to install it. You do have a choice. Just ignore the red dot. It’s not that hard. Although why you’d want to is beyond me. We’ve been saying this here since iOS was a thing. People didn’t want to go from 6 to 7, or 7 to 8, and now 11 to 12. And yet, here we all are.

In case you really do not understand please google 'disable ios update notifications' (note the hit count), or alike. (you must have limited experience in iOS despite of your long time exposure)

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by Silhouette »

FabHK wrote: post #136
Silhouette wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down. Indeed. Between that and the imminent arrival of dual-SIM iPhones, I may actually want to buy something here. And yet, for all the information Apple provide about security and privacy, including much talk of end-to-end encryption in some cases, I have so far been unable to determine the fundamental way that all of their online services work and w…

Have you checked their iOS security guide? It has a section on internet/cloud services. https://www.apple.com/business/site/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.... EDIT to add: DuckDuckGo gave me the above link for the iOS 11 version, but it has actually been updated already for iOS 12.

Yes, thanks. Actually, that's the main documentation I was looking at before. I can't figure out from those descriptions how Apple IDs and iCloud keys work, and in particular, whether Apple themselves hold all of the necessary credentials to decrypt data held in iCloud services or whether something remains with the user alone.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wlesieutre »

Jtsummers wrote: post #168
wlesieutre wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm personally hoping for correct message ordering in iMessage. It frequently puts replies to questions before the question had been asked, so reading back through conversations makes very little sense. That's been around for years as well, so again no holding my breath. At least it's faster!

Which iOS version do you have? I recall that same issue, but it was fixed in one of the .x updates, but I don't recall which major version number.

Still happens on 11.4.1, I've got an obvious one last Saturday where I sent a photo and my friend's response to it is placed above as if it were sent before they even saw the photo.

We're both in the same time zone with correctly set clocks.

I appreciate Apple's stance on privacy, but I'm still talking to a lot of people on Messenger because the messages go in the right order there.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by TwoQ »

The only reason I have yet to move fully to Android is because right now, Android without Google is such a neutered experience that I don't see any reason to try.

I only have an iPhone because of Apple's privacy stance. I hate every other element of the company.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wlesieutre »

anselmio wrote: post #119

The new Shortcuts app by Apple (must be downloaded separately: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/workflow/id915249334?mt=8 ) is definitely interesting. An example from the description: "Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action". Edit: Just discovered that there's also "Run Script Over SSH" that takes input passed to a shell script (stdin) and returns the output from the shell script (…

Minor note for former Workflow users, it appears that the old Workflow app automatically updates to Apple's new Shortcuts app when you install the release version.

I'd been on the public beta and was surprised to see Shortcuts preinstalled when I updated.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by SentientNo4 »

anselmio wrote: post #119

The new Shortcuts app by Apple (must be downloaded separately: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/workflow/id915249334?mt=8 ) is definitely interesting. An example from the description: "Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action". Edit: Just discovered that there's also "Run Script Over SSH" that takes input passed to a shell script (stdin) and returns the output from the shell script (…

The "new" app is actually not so new, and it was previously called Workflow (https://www.workflow.is/). Looks like they bought it and rebranded it as Shortcuts.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by mrbuttons454 »

wiredfool wrote: post #152

I hope they've fixed the bug in Mail.app where it fixates on a particular message from a month ago, which then requires you to scroll like a hamster to get to the latest messages. And then then next time as well. This has been around for a while, so I'm not really holding my breath.

FYI you can tap the status bar to scroll to the top of an iOS list.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by danso »

another-cuppa wrote: post #36
kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

It is a really interesting marketing move (and don't delude yourself, this is a marketing move). To market a feature that Google can't possibly compete with.

What feature of a phone would not be a "marketing move"? What is that label meant to convey in terms of that feature's importance/viability/sincerity?

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by baddox »

addicted wrote: post #103
another-cuppa wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a really interesting marketing move (and don't delude yourself, this is a marketing move). To market a feature that Google can't possibly compete with.

If this is a marketing move, then any feature could be described as a marketing move. For example, how is Apple's emphasis on privacy, with the additional features they have added to push for it, different from their emphasis on backing up when they introduced Time Machine? I think that the Time Machine introduction was as much of a marketing move, at which point you've broadened the definition of the phrase where it…

I find that people on HN frequently use the term "marketing" in the absolute broadest sense of "all activities involved in the process of creating a product that customers want to buy," but still use it pejoratively as in its narrowest sense of "advertising and other communication intended to convince customers to buy a product."

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by OkGoDoIt »

wlesieutre wrote: post #185
anselmio wrote: post #119

The new Shortcuts app by Apple (must be downloaded separately: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/workflow/id915249334?mt=8 ) is definitely interesting. An example from the description: "Run custom scripts in Safari with the new Run JavaScript on Web Page action". Edit: Just discovered that there's also "Run Script Over SSH" that takes input passed to a shell script (stdin) and returns the output from the shell script (…

Minor note for former Workflow users, it appears that the old Workflow app automatically updates to Apple's new Shortcuts app when you install the release version. I'd been on the public beta and was surprised to see Shortcuts preinstalled when I updated.

Anyone notice any major downsides, regressions, feature removals? The original app was powerful but quite complicated to use, I imagine Apple dumbed it down a bit for widespread adoption.
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