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Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

I would like to believe them. But I can't. It would be so great if they could open source the part of their software that makes it possible to verify its degree of privacy.

A company just writing they're taking privacy seriously... I don't believe it.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by wiredfool »

I hope they've fixed the bug in Mail.app where it fixates on a particular message from a month ago, which then requires you to scroll like a hamster to get to the latest messages. And then then next time as well.

This has been around for a while, so I'm not really holding my breath.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by rc_bhg »

madeofpalk wrote: post #130
7dare wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even though it isn't the case right now, we must be careful for the feature not to become a feeling of privacy rather than privacy itself

Of course. As with all claims and features, we must constantly be critical of them and the motivations behind them.

Yep, I feel safe with Apple right now. Who knows what tomorrow may bring.

Re: iOS 12 released

#154

Post by JustSomeNobody »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #151
kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

I would like to believe them. But I can't. It would be so great if they could open source the part of their software that makes it possible to verify its degree of privacy. A company just writing they're taking privacy seriously... I don't believe it.

why open source it? where else would/could it be used?

Now, I would like a third party to audit it. That would be great.

Re: iOS 12 released

#155

Post by viraptor »

ivraatiems wrote: post #53
corobo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well just the other day there was a bug that causes iOS to restart if a webpage is structured in a particular way Edit for more information: I've been using iOS 12 on my SE for a while (beta) and while in all honesty I've not really found anything particularly great, more importantly I've not had any non-beta-related issues - slowdowns or otherwise I am looking forward to playing with shortcuts, but have yet to

Is this triggered by many "real" websites, or just by a site that's designed to trigger it, e. g. a proof of concept? Is it a security risk or just annoying?

Common theme in application security: crashes are either exploitable, or not yet exploitable. Unless the app crashes in a completely static and 100% repeatable way, there's a good chance someone is working on creating a specific, exploitable setup using it...

Re: iOS 12 released

#156

Post by wlesieutre »

wiredfool wrote: post #152

I hope they've fixed the bug in Mail.app where it fixates on a particular message from a month ago, which then requires you to scroll like a hamster to get to the latest messages. And then then next time as well. This has been around for a while, so I'm not really holding my breath.

I'm personally hoping for correct message ordering in iMessage. It frequently puts replies to questions before the question had been asked, so reading back through conversations makes very little sense.

That's been around for years as well, so again no holding my breath.

At least it's faster!

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by simongr3dal »

speg wrote: post #71
babl-yc wrote: post #58

This the most stable iOS beta I've ever used. It's exciting to see Apple focus on quality, even if the marketing page doesn't end up as flashy.

Already noticing small but appreciated performance improvements. Share sheet and app switching both came up noticeably quicker. Am loving shortcuts, looks like they didn't dumb it down. There's even an SSH action.

Sadly it doesn't look like it supports ssh-keys.

Re: iOS 12 released

#158

Post by elorant »

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Considering that Google is the exact opposite it may be a marketing strategy to lure clients to iPhone.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by make3 »

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

I believe that this is just strategic marketing to position their products vs Google, not some deeply held belief. It's still valuable ofc.

Re: iOS 12 released

#160

Post by andrewhn »

kyrra wrote: post #26
kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

they did isolate the chinese icloud from the rest of the world, so whatever I guess.
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