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Re: iOS 12 released

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A friend of mine is still running her iPhone 6 on the original iOS version, so probably iOS 8. It would slow down with iOS 12, right? Those speed gains are compared to non-ancient versions?

I have a 6s. iOS 11 was pretty annoying and my battery drained noticeably quicker--I was bummed with the upgrade but I think I wanted it for AirPods support. Also I remember the "instant camera" was a feature demoed when the phone was first released and iOS 11 took 5-10 seconds to bring up the camera.

I've been using the 12 beta for months and it immediately fixed those things. I'm not sure if the camera is as snappy as the original iOS, but it's less than a second. I'm not sure how this all compares to the original iOS it shipped with, though.

Re: iOS 12 released

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post #39

A friend of mine is still running her iPhone 6 on the original iOS version, so probably iOS 8. It would slow down with iOS 12, right? Those speed gains are compared to non-ancient versions?

I'm on a 5S and the speed gain from iOS 11 to 12 is noticable. Not vast, but noticable.

Unfortunately, that does not answer the question: is iOS 12 slower than iOS 8? Sure, 12 is faster than 11, it's what Apple has been touting. But maybe 11 was a dog, and 8 was a speed demon.

That said, I sure don't know the answer, or even much of an educated guess.

Re: iOS 12 released

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I'm really psyched to have the new Screen Time feature working across my family. It's got some quirks which I suppose will be smoothed out in time, but it's still lightyears better than previous third-party programs. The only thing I wish Apple had done was create a separate app to control the restrictions, or at least provide an API so someone else could do it. Digging all the way into Settings to change time and lo…

Just add the screen time widget and access from there, like it’s own app.

Re: iOS 12 released

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“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

It is a really interesting marketing move (and don't delude yourself, this is a marketing move). To market a feature that Google can't possibly compete with.

>and don't delude yourself, this is a marketing move

I don't think it's just a marketing move necessarily. While power and idealistic managers can have a significant short term impact in direction and culture, in the long term of course financial incentives are generally the single greatest determinator of company behavior. However short term isn't meaningless particularly wrt company cultural values that last longer, and in turn leadership can still matter a lot. I think that may multiply when leadership isn't fighting a company's incentives, but rather there is a chance to bring both together in some ways. All that is leading up to sometimes forgotten (and how great that is!) fact that Apple's current CEO Tim Cook is a gay man who grew up in a time when that was flat out illegal and could be heavily persecuted even in the US, and now lives in a world where it's still something subject to death in many parts of the world. That's not determinative by any means, but I can't imagine it hasn't influenced him at all. One of the core business values of having a more diverse workforce and management team is precisely that they bring a wider set of experiences and viewpoints which can profitably inform the company.

I've seen a number of comparisons vs Steve Jobs that have called Tim Cook more "visionless" and "mundane" and so on and so forth, a "competent manager" but without the same animation. I honestly wonder though whether privacy and personal information security is in fact a real animating motivation Tim Cook's. It's inherently a much quieter, subtler one that doesn't on the face of it have the same end user feature impact (by definition). And it is something that can work well with where Apple gets their money and even their own corporate culture of secrecy. But that doesn't mean he can't drive them even farther and harder in that direction in turn then they might have gone otherwise right?

Maybe you didn't intend it that way, but when I see "this is a marketing move" it tends to feel dismissive and negative, like it's all just fake and manipulative. But something can be "good PR" while also being a genuine value people hold, in fact if anything I think the most sustainable and best win/wins are when it all comes together, when something someone is doing genuinely for real is good and is worth serious value and in turn is totally reasonable to be proud of and "market". That's the ultimate ideal of the market right, that someone is making something good and gets rewarded in turn?

Re: iOS 12 released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is persuasive, but I wonder why they didn't test the SE. Maybe because the 5S is older but quite similar/appeals to the same market?

The SE is basically a 6 in the 5S form factor.

It has the 6S's internal hardware, not the 6's. So it's way more powerful than the 6, let alone the 5S.

Re: iOS 12 released

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I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

If all the things work for you and you are ok with unpatched vulnerabilities, stay that way.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on a 5S and the speed gain from iOS 11 to 12 is noticable. Not vast, but noticable.

Unfortunately, that does not answer the question: is iOS 12 slower than iOS 8? Sure, 12 is faster than 11, it's what Apple has been touting. But maybe 11 was a dog, and 8 was a speed demon. That said, I sure don't know the answer, or even much of an educated guess.

11 was absolutely a dog. I don't think I remember the 8 as a speed demon though.

Re: iOS 12 released

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post #52
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I've been using the beta for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty impressed. It really does make my phone work better than before. But I'm most excited about Waze support on CarPlay, which does not appear to have dropped today.

As of a few days ago, the rumors were that Waze support was still in early beta and a ways (sorry) off, but that Google Maps would likely land in October.

This makes me sad. It was the main reason I started running the beta -- because I foolishly thought they already had the beta of CarPlay support, since it was shown in the keynote. I only found out later that the keynote was just vaporware.

Re: iOS 12 released

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I'm still on iOS 10 on my iPhone SE. Why should I upgrade? Even if there was a convincing reason to, I'm afraid performance will tank, as it often does on older iPhones getting their last update.

From the arstechnica benchmarks (linked in another comment on this page), it looks on par with iOS 10.

Re: iOS 12 released

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post #58

This the most stable iOS beta I've ever used. It's exciting to see Apple focus on quality, even if the marketing page doesn't end up as flashy.

Yes, it’s been completely different compared to both iOS 10 and 11 betas where the latter can barely be called stable even in the GM release. I hope it’s the fruits of some change in engineering.
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