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Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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In what city is 1.5h the average commute time, just to make sure I'll never go there.

Seattle. I work with people who have 2hr commutes, both ways.

That would be 4h in my calculation, because I counted the time per day you can't freely allocate.

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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>Our society is such that we typically work 8 out of 24 hours(33%) I always think you should look at the effective free time you have left. I can't do much in my sleep (-8h), I can't do much on my commute (-1.5h), I can't do much in my lunch break (I have to take a 45 minute lunch break by law, it's way too short to use it as actual free time, but takes another significant chunk out of your day.) I get to 24h-8h-8h-1…

In what city is 1.5h the average commute time, just to make sure I'll never go there.

when i was working at an office, my avg commute was 1h each way (using uber). that's são paulo, brazil where 150+km of traffic jams is not unusual.

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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Things like weekends and holidays are, in some cases, the only thing that let people who do certain types of work have any time off work to begin with. Someone I know worked at a supermarket as a cashier at some point and she asked for a few days off on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. She asked for this a few months in advance. Her manager looked at here puzzled and sneered "What do you want off for?" as if it was s…

> but some people are not in a position to quit/negotiate and have to put up with asshole-bosses all the time. Everyone is in a position to quit/negotiate. People who tell themselves they aren't are just living in a cage they keep themselves in. Have some initiative and make a positive lifestyle change!

You can negotiate yourself onto the street, I suppose the fresh air could be considered a positive life change.

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the mixed compromise: Monday - Thursday: 10 hour days Friday - Monday: 4 day weekend Tuesday - Friday: 10 hour days Saturday - Sunday: 2 day weekend and then it repeats. Same hours worked overall. Work longer days, but get 4 day weekends every other week. The people I've known who've had this setup would generally work 6am-4pm.

This might work if you don't have kids - I tried a four-day week like this so I could spend a day a week with my daughter in the years before she goes to school, but I was so knackered by the day off that the extra day was an extremely low-quality one!

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

#106

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of the mixed compromise: Monday - Thursday: 10 hour days Friday - Monday: 4 day weekend Tuesday - Friday: 10 hour days Saturday - Sunday: 2 day weekend and then it repeats. Same hours worked overall. Work longer days, but get 4 day weekends every other week. The people I've known who've had this setup would generally work 6am-4pm.

The huge problem for me would be the 10 hour days followed by a 2 day weekend. Hard pass.

I'll also second the 10 hours being useless. Most days I really get about 4-5 hours of 100% work in. I don't think this would be any more productive than simply doing 3 day weekends with 8 hours of work, which I would prefer between the two.

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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The consequences would be terrible! We would have to wait 18 months between each iteration of Iphone instead of 12. Amazon would deliver at day+2. Uber Eats would answer: "No slave available. Sorry, you will have to cook". Simply unacceptable !!! Now go back to work 5 days a week!

Why cant things be more flexible, eg. you have a 7 day workweek but personally you only work 4 days? This seems like a good idea especially given more automation and more higher level jobs.

I could hide from the clients for weeks! Weeks I say! "Oh, sorry, our schedules really only overlap for a day and I'm booked solid. How about next month?"

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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What I really need is a weekly study day: Spend a whole day just studying and reading something (which may be completely unrelated to my work). Some of my most productive ideas have come from such study.

What I need is a weekly work day :). My workplace is so distracting that I barely ever get to do focused work. The background noise drives me crazy and then always somebody wants to have another meeting about something that has been discussed dozens of times before.

I would quit so fast if my workplace was like that. That is not an environment where (good) software can be created.

You need technical people as the cofounder/upper management level to push back hard on that stuff. Via quiet separated office areas for developers, policies on 'distractions' during certain times OR when headphones are on OR Slack status is "Do Not Disturb", etc.

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

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I'm getting voted down but I'm serious... it is a cultural choice to feed people by paying them for work. And so work must be procured and time occupied by what is essentially walking a treadmill until the rent pops out.

In my business, if time is just occupied by a worker, they loose a job. Their job depends on them doing something that pays for their income.

Then they are probably doing a great if slightly panicked job of pretending to be "doing something" (as in "don't just sit there, do something!!") every hour of the workday. Because their rents and ramen depend on convincing some guy who grumps at people on news.ycombinator.com that a task which will naturally have surges and lulls consists of continuous machine-like effort.

Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things like weekends and holidays are, in some cases, the only thing that let people who do certain types of work have any time off work to begin with. Someone I know worked at a supermarket as a cashier at some point and she asked for a few days off on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. She asked for this a few months in advance. Her manager looked at here puzzled and sneered "What do you want off for?" as if it was s…

> but some people are not in a position to quit/negotiate and have to put up with asshole-bosses all the time. Everyone is in a position to quit/negotiate. People who tell themselves they aren't are just living in a cage they keep themselves in. Have some initiative and make a positive lifestyle change!

Really? How are they going to afford to do that?
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