Apple, Firefox tools aim to thwart Facebook, Google tracking
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#2>"Apple and Mozilla are able to push the boundaries on privacy because neither depends on advertising. Google makes most of its money from selling ads."
I am curious will Google at some point push back on Mozilla's efforts here? Isn't the placement of Google search as the default search engine in Firefox a significant source of funding?
Re: Apple, Firefox tools aim to thwart Facebook, Google tracking
#3>"Apple and Mozilla are able to push the boundaries on privacy because neither depends on advertising. Google makes most of its money from selling ads." I am curious will Google at some point push back on Mozilla's efforts here? Isn't the placement of Google search as the default search engine in Firefox a significant source of funding?
Probably part of the reason why they built and maintain Chrome.
Firefox will always have a dedicated user base -- if Google want to be the default search engine on that browser they will have to pay for it otherwise services like Bing will occupy that space.
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#4Why should anyone with an adblocker installed care about tracking? I mean isn't the end goal to just serve personalized ads?
Re: Apple, Firefox tools aim to thwart Facebook, Google tracking
#5Why should anyone with an adblocker installed care about tracking? I mean isn't the end goal to just serve personalized ads?
I would say that is the least significant part of the problem with tracking.
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#6OK so now I'm considering switching my primary work browser to Safari instead of Chrome (I use Firefox for a lot of my general/personal browsing already). The one thing holding me back is development tools. Which has better devtools, Firefox or Safari? (I've tried both several times but always ended up running back to Chrome...)
Re: Apple, Firefox tools aim to thwart Facebook, Google tracking
#7>"Apple and Mozilla are able to push the boundaries on privacy because neither depends on advertising. Google makes most of its money from selling ads." I am curious will Google at some point push back on Mozilla's efforts here? Isn't the placement of Google search as the default search engine in Firefox a significant source of funding?
Isn't there relationship already problematic?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/20/firefox-g...
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#8Why should anyone with an adblocker installed care about tracking? I mean isn't the end goal to just serve personalized ads?
For now, that might be the case; however, there are a large number of more insidious uses when that data is sold to/shared with third parties (e.g. insurance companies could use that data to increase your rates or deny insurance depending on your web traffic, employers could make inferences based on your data and deny employment, banks could use the data to deny loans or charge increased rates, etc.).
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#9Why should anyone with an adblocker installed care about tracking? I mean isn't the end goal to just serve personalized ads?
People should care about tracking because even though Google and Facebook may only care about serving ads, they also have to provide information in response to requests from the government. Any tracking information available to a company is de facto available to the government where the company resides, the government just has to go through the extra step of requesting it.
Re: Apple, Firefox tools aim to thwart Facebook, Google tracking
#10OK so now I'm considering switching my primary work browser to Safari instead of Chrome (I use Firefox for a lot of my general/personal browsing already). The one thing holding me back is development tools. Which has better devtools, Firefox or Safari? (I've tried both several times but always ended up running back to Chrome...)
I personally use Firefox dev tools about 99% of the time. I prefer it to Chrome. It's different from Chrome, but the performance and features are comparable, if not better.