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I did that and switched back to 5 as I found after a year that the extra day per week just didn't make enough difference compared to earning 20% more. I would much rather work full time and take a full year off every 5 years
Not as tax efficient though unfortunately. Maybe it doesn't make as much difference in the States where income tax is extremely low.
Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)
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#22One proposal has been to go to an 8-day week with a 3-day weekend. This only reduces worked days by 12%, instead of 20%.
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#24There shouldn't be weekends. People should be allowed to take any 3 days off during the week. This will reduce unemployment and increase productivity.
Someone I know worked at a supermarket as a cashier at some point and she asked for a few days off on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. She asked for this a few months in advance. Her manager looked at here puzzled and sneered "What do you want off for?" as if it was strange to want to have a few days off on Christmas. Luckily for her it was just her student job and she quit before Christmas came around, but some people are not in a position to quit/negotiate and have to put up with asshole-bosses all the time.
Here in the Netherlands shops stay open longer and longer and on more days (they used to be closed on Sunday). This leaves people who don't have an education that gives them a lot of job security open to exposed to the whims of their bosses.
I think ideas like having the ability to choosing your weekends (2 or 3 days) leaves those 2 or 3 days open to discussion and gives some managers a chance to wiggle them out from under you. You see a similar effect with the 'unlimited holiday'-companies out there; the effect is that people feel pressured into taking less days off than they would have had with a more traditional number of days at other companies.
Also, schools are open during the week, not the weekend, so parents are pretty much stuck with the 'normal' weekend anyway.
Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)
#25The consequences would be terrible! We would have to wait 18 months between each iteration of Iphone instead of 12. Amazon would deliver at day+2. Uber Eats would answer: "No slave available. Sorry, you will have to cook". Simply unacceptable !!! Now go back to work 5 days a week!
This seems like a good idea especially given more automation and more higher level jobs.
Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)
#26Here’s my responses to the article’s specific claims:
You’d be healthier. Yes, I generally get more exercise. I’d already changed my eating habits to avoid snacking and this hasn’t changed.
You’d sleep more. Not sure. Seems about the same although I can vary my sleep time to suit my own activities.
You’d be less of a jerk, probably. You’d have to ask my wife that.
All of that, plus, you’ll be better at your job. Not sure. I'm slightly less aware of what’s going on in the office and wider industry but in general more relaxed.
On balance it’s been a really good thing. I haven't managed to progress all of the side-projects I intended to but I have definitely achieved my primary goal of improving my life-work balance. The pay cut is tolerable and in any case my wife and I were planning to scale back some of our more expensive activities (such as going camping rather than staying in hotels).
It's also sent a clear message to my colleagues and management (all of whom have been supportive) about my work expectations. I still have responsibilities (e.g. for deliverables) so there is still pressure that doesn’t go away. I also tend not be the first pick for activities that require long term full-time commitment, or for the company to make an investment in my personal development (e.g. training in new skills). To date this hasn’t been a real problem – I'd made the decision to scale back because I'd gone as far up the corporate ladder as I’d wanted to. And I feel the same a year on.
The way I explain my mood to people is “Monday mornings are just as crappy as they ever were. But when I leave work on Wednesday, it’s already Friday.”
Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)
#27I agree. I'm thinking of moving to that model when my current contract comes up for renegotiation early next year. A 20% paycut is definitely liveable, and that extra day per week would make a lot of difference - either in terms of bootstrapping side projects, or just quality of life.
Tangential question: when people in the US say 9-5 work, do you take into account the lunch break or that 1 hour is still counted as workable?
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#28The consequences would be terrible! We would have to wait 18 months between each iteration of Iphone instead of 12. Amazon would deliver at day+2. Uber Eats would answer: "No slave available. Sorry, you will have to cook". Simply unacceptable !!! Now go back to work 5 days a week!
Why cant things be more flexible, eg. you have a 7 day workweek but personally you only work 4 days? This seems like a good idea especially given more automation and more higher level jobs.
>This seems like a good idea especially given more automation and more higher level jobs.
Automation means fewer jobs and less flexibility, not the opposite. The more work machines do, the less value human labor has, the harder employers have to squeeze their employees to even make a profit from them. One just has to look at a company like Amazon to see how that trend leads.
Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)
#29I’m in the fourth decade of my career and I switched to a three day week almost a year ago, taking a proportional pay cut. I work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday to get the largest contiguous block of time (Thursdays and Fridays) where the places I want to go to are family/child free. If work needs me to swap a day (e.g. to go to a Thursday meeting) I’ll often do that and occasionally I'll work longer one week and then…
Could you ask her and write what she says? Tell her HN wants to know. :-)
Re: Every Weekend Should Be a 3-Day Weekend (2015)
#30I’m in the fourth decade of my career and I switched to a three day week almost a year ago, taking a proportional pay cut. I work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday to get the largest contiguous block of time (Thursdays and Fridays) where the places I want to go to are family/child free. If work needs me to swap a day (e.g. to go to a Thursday meeting) I’ll often do that and occasionally I'll work longer one week and then…
The closest I've got to this, is as a contractor - I don't look for new roles until one finishes.
This means I get about 1-3 months between each one.
3 day work week does sound healthier, the New Economics Foundation is in favour of it too
https://neweconomics.org/2010/02/21-hours
Before this, I was inspired by my mother working a 3 day week (not for maternity, I had already left home when she switched).
3 days is great since you are selling less than half your time.