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The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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Might be useful to some: i realized some time ago (yeah it took me a while...) that most websites that don't have a RSS feed do have a Facebook page. So now i just add those Facebook pages as RSS feeds in my reader and i can follow with RSS those websites that don't have a RSS feed. At least Facebook is useful now.... :-)

How do you do this? I did a bit of research and it looks like FB have deprecated their old RSS feeds based on page `id`.

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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I still use RSS and it's, in many ways, better than the web stupidity that surrounds us. The title is misleading. People who captured the feedreader market, killed the competitors then dropped it did a lot of damage. Maybe deliberately. LESSON: Never trust a big company that relies on advertising. RSS is a way to escape the nonsense that has come with those, who have no idea what the web can be, but have flooded in a…

OK, we've rolled back the claim of the title using a representative phrase from the article.

All: let's focus on something other than the title now—it's a pretty interesting piece for anyone who doesn't know the history (as I didn't).

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #67

Might be useful to some: i realized some time ago (yeah it took me a while...) that most websites that don't have a RSS feed do have a Facebook page. So now i just add those Facebook pages as RSS feeds in my reader and i can follow with RSS those websites that don't have a RSS feed. At least Facebook is useful now.... :-)

How do you do this? I did a bit of research and it looks like FB have deprecated their old RSS feeds based on page `id`.

well i guess there are other ways but as i built a RSS reader, i've added this feature. But you're right they deprecated the api, so it only works for public pages, and not people's profiles.

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #73

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How do you do this? I did a bit of research and it looks like FB have deprecated their old RSS feeds based on page `id`.

well i guess there are other ways but as i built a RSS reader, i've added this feature. But you're right they deprecated the api, so it only works for public pages, and not people's profiles.

Ok, so you use their JSON API with an FB app token?

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well i guess there are other ways but as i built a RSS reader, i've added this feature. But you're right they deprecated the api, so it only works for public pages, and not people's profiles.

Ok, so you use their JSON API with an FB app token?

well you don't need to login to access these pages, they are public, i ended up doing some html parsing :-)

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #20

RSS never died. On the contrary, its usage for content aggregation & monitoring has been increasing over the years, specially in the business world and niche markets. I'm speaking from my own experience running Feedity - https://feedity.com , a growing startup that helps with custom feeds for unstructured sources like webpages.

I've been wondering why Feedly, which I use exclusively to follow webcomics, has been hammering me with ad copy about "the news you need to stay on the cutting edge" lately.

(RSS is, like, objectively the best way to follow multiple webcomics. I don't understand why it's not more popular.)

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #46

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Stuff that the creator/producer wants syndicated will probably have an RSS feed still. As social media platforms benefit from content lock in as opposed to syndication, the publisher (the platform) has no incentive to offer RSS. I am not particularly bothered by the lack of RSS on social platforms.

I dont know if that’s true. If I could consume Facebook via RSS, I might follow it a bot more. When I wanted to respond or like, I would have to switch to the app.

> If I could consume Facebook via RSS

You used to be able to do that. The problem (from fb's point of view) as the sibling comment points out is that you'd never visit facebook.com unless you wanted to actually wanted to interact with the content.

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #67

Might be useful to some: i realized some time ago (yeah it took me a while...) that most websites that don't have a RSS feed do have a Facebook page. So now i just add those Facebook pages as RSS feeds in my reader and i can follow with RSS those websites that don't have a RSS feed. At least Facebook is useful now.... :-)

How do you do this? I did a bit of research and it looks like FB have deprecated their old RSS feeds based on page `id`.

rss-bridge supports facebook profiles/pages[0].

[0]: https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge

Re: The Rise and Contentious Fork of RSS

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post #56

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Tangentially, this is also a great argument in music business discussions against the finality of Spotify, Youtube and other centralized streaming platforms. People are doing just fine consuming podcast RSS feeds using players when the UX is smooth; there's no reason why that couldn't be the case for music or other verticals in general (direct artist-to-fan).

Problem with video is still bandwidth and the fact that it is more difficult to distribute. For podcasts you need one mp3, usually quite compressed. For video you usually need more than one source, adaptable stream quality and good seeking (because most people do not watch videos end to end but only view parts of it). This is probably not insurmountable but I guess we need better tools for creators to abstract all of…

This is already solved by HLS - all you'd need is a .m3u8 file in the feed. Industry insistence on DRM issues is what's preventing it from taking off, but "indies" could do it.
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