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In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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Google's shutdown of products and APIs seems to have led to critical level of trust loss amongst developers and influencers. It's time for Google to either fix this or get out of providing services and APIs to developers. Google doesn't seem to put any weight at all on the outcry every time its shutters another service/API. The trust must be restored. Google doesn't seem to understand that when they shut service X, t…

"The trust must be restored." Playing devil's advocate, what happens when the trust doesn't become restored? The company loses ad revenue? Developers flee in mass droves to...Yahoo and Microsoft? Look what happened when people "lost trust" in Facebook. Shares are down 4% relative to a year ago. Is the company permanently crippled? Are people revolting and moving to alternate forms of social media? Fewer of the people…

There are plenty of signs facebook proper is in trouble

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The feature/lab "Multiple Inboxes" overrides this. That's why I have been using and continue to use through Inbox and all the latest Gmail changes.

I wish there were something in between Multiple Inboxes and tabs. I would like to make my own tabbed categories for my inbox.

You are looking for Labels.

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After being a keen Google user in the late 2000s to mid 2010s, I’ve been in on a process of extracting them from my life now their true creepy colours are on display. YouTube => Deleted Google plus => Deleted Gmail => Deleted, switched to Soverin [0], works great, less than $4 per month for 25gb email hosting Drive => Deleted, moved to iCloud Docs => Deleted, use iWork for docs and Bear [1] for text Search => Duck Du…

Soverin sounds like a good project. What do you make of the fact that the warrant canary hasn't been updated since May, though? https://soverin.net/warrant-canary

Does Gmail even have a warrant canary? I don't think so, so comparing apples to apples it seems like a wash.

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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I used to be a Google fan boy but am starting to dislike them more and more. This, they killed off reader and the creepy data collection they do is why I've started to look into alternatives for their products - anyone have any good suggestions?

Fastmail and DuckDuckGo is what I use. I've been meaning to install LineageOS on my phone, too. Anyone have suggestions of alternatives for YouTube? Would be cool to see a list of software and services organized by the Google product they're alternatives of.

>alternative for YouTube

If you mean the site you could use youtube-dl on desktop and NewPipe on Android. If you mean the service, I don't think there's anything. YouTube is pervasive for non-porn videos.

Want to watch a talk from that conference last month? It's only on YouTube.

Want to learn how to rebuild a V8? The best information is on YouTube.

The only thing I know of that isn't on YouTube is gun videos, and only because Google banned their accounts.

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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post #16

I used to be a Google fan boy but am starting to dislike them more and more. This, they killed off reader and the creepy data collection they do is why I've started to look into alternatives for their products - anyone have any good suggestions?

As others have commented, there is a variety of alternatives to Google for the majority of their products, and the discussion has been had on HN a number of times . [0]. What really annoys me is how woven Google has now become to our working day processes. It's all very well having open-source alternatives for private use, but many (I included) used Inbox for work where we are obligated to use Gmail. This feels like…

I agree, it's mind boggling how Google managed to work their way into such major corporations and organizations. At a company I used to work for Google massively (massively) undercut Microsoft for Gmail and Google Docs vs O365. I guess like with Android, no one stopped to wonder why they're giving it away practically free?

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

#107

Google's shutdown of products and APIs seems to have led to critical level of trust loss amongst developers and influencers. It's time for Google to either fix this or get out of providing services and APIs to developers. Google doesn't seem to put any weight at all on the outcry every time its shutters another service/API. The trust must be restored. Google doesn't seem to understand that when they shut service X, t…

"The trust must be restored." Playing devil's advocate, what happens when the trust doesn't become restored? The company loses ad revenue? Developers flee in mass droves to...Yahoo and Microsoft? Look what happened when people "lost trust" in Facebook. Shares are down 4% relative to a year ago. Is the company permanently crippled? Are people revolting and moving to alternate forms of social media? Fewer of the people…

Facebook is in trouble man, I am amazed the outcry of general public. Its all circumstantial evidence but the amount of people in my circle who are talking about leaving, creating fake profiles and getting their kids pictures of the platform is profound. Edit: IMO.

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After being a keen Google user in the late 2000s to mid 2010s, I’ve been in on a process of extracting them from my life now their true creepy colours are on display. YouTube => Deleted Google plus => Deleted Gmail => Deleted, switched to Soverin [0], works great, less than $4 per month for 25gb email hosting Drive => Deleted, moved to iCloud Docs => Deleted, use iWork for docs and Bear [1] for text Search => Duck Du…

Soverin sounds like a good project. What do you make of the fact that the warrant canary hasn't been updated since May, though? https://soverin.net/warrant-canary

That's a poorly phrased warrant canary. Aren't warrant canaries intended to be for FISA-type warrants?

Re: In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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The new look Gmail has performed very poorly for me. Hanging for extended periods while changing views, and during search. I'm not sure why a UI refresh would have such an effect but I've been avoiding switching because of this

I hate how it collapses the left menu bar (Inbox, Drafts, Sent etc) to icons only and then has a big lag to open the menu drawer and show the texts when you hover over it. Gmail was better when it was simpler.

Doesn't it stay pinned if you click the hamburger icon on the top left?
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