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SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
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Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#32Hi - I am the guy who started Sage. If you have any questions I can try to answer them here.
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#33Hi - I am the guy who started Sage. If you have any questions I can try to answer them here.
I made this comment below, but about 6 or so years ago, I found it could be used for science and engineering purposes like solving ODEs but it seemed a little bit rough at that. Today, is it improved for use for science types? Do Sage and Cocalc find users in this area?
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Mathematica is optimized for giving you results you need in undergrad classes What makes you think this? Mathematica is used in all sorts research projects, technical fields, finance, and so on. I've seen Mathematica required or recommended in many, many job listings, especially for quants. I've never seen Sage there. For evidence, here [1] is what you get for searching for Mathematica on Indeed.com. Note pretty muc…
Despite being the Sage fanboy in the thread, I have to admit that all the use I've seen of Sage has been academic or experimental; I haven't heard of anyone using Sage for statistics in any context, and not for quants or actuarial science or anything of the sort. I'd suggest that Sage is likely less good for those uses since Sage is good at the kinds of things you're likely to find academics use Sage for (e.g. tons o…
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you know what you're doing the axiom bindings make it the most powerful cas in terms of symbolic manipulation. Mathematica is optimized for giving you results you need in undergrad classes. Sage is not optimized at all, but can solve problems useful to researchers. It's the difference between osx and linux.
>Mathematica is optimized for giving you results you need in undergrad classes What makes you think this? Mathematica is used in all sorts research projects, technical fields, finance, and so on. I've seen Mathematica required or recommended in many, many job listings, especially for quants. I've never seen Sage there. For evidence, here [1] is what you get for searching for Mathematica on Indeed.com. Note pretty muc…
Most math quants use is at the undergrad level, the finance industry in general is pretty backwards. A very large chunk of it is run on spreadsheets that are passed around in emails. I've worked in it and having seem what it takes to run some of the clients spreadsheets still gives me nightmares.
Again, the difference between osx and linux.
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To clarify what I mean by undergrad level: Something that is taught to some undergrads in some degree.
Someone who specialized in pure symbolic mathematics is likely to see integrals in their last year that other people will not see until they start doing postdoc work.
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am unfortunately forced to use Mathematica because my scientific collaborators do so. While I have become very proficient at it, I don't like the interface or the language very much. Its a functional language put into an interface suitable for iterative programming. Loading external libraries is very non-intuitive, and just being able to separate a single program over many files that you can simultaneously edit is…
I got my PhD in computational plasma physics in a group that heavily used matlab. I'm lucky enough that my advisor was okay with me using numpy and friends instead as long as my plots and figures looked okay. Today, I run a one-man show for my post-doc doing simulations for an experimental group, so I thankfully get to continue this mode of work. And thank god I didn't have to face losing the ability to run my script…
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mathematica has lots of drawbacks, chief among which : if you write Mathematica code, you're building on top of an expensive, closed-source bunch of opaque algorithm that are neither guaranteed to be correct (can't see what they do) nor to continue behaving the way they did when you wrote your code (you're at the mercy of Wolfram changing what the code does). As far as I'm concerned, this essentially precludes doing…
You can say that, but I know lot of scientists and mathematicians who extensively use Mathematica in their research.
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#38It's just a pleasure to use. Thank you williamstein!!
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#39Hi - I am the guy who started Sage. If you have any questions I can try to answer them here.
Re: SageMath – Open-Source Mathematical Software System
#40Hi - I am the guy who started Sage. If you have any questions I can try to answer them here.
Something seems a bit weird about that to me, because when I used it ~8 years ago Sage was great and none of the features I care about changed.
Do can I get a meta-comment on why Sage might struggle to get packaged for Debian in the way that, eg, Octave/maxima/R/etc do?