"A madman is not someone who has lost his reason but someone who has lost everything but his reason." - GK Chesterton
What's the context of this quote? When I search it on Google one of the front page results is actually this HN comment. It's hard to find more information about GK Chesterton's broader point.
The Cult of Reason
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#22"A madman is not someone who has lost his reason but someone who has lost everything but his reason." - GK Chesterton
What's the context of this quote? When I search it on Google one of the front page results is actually this HN comment. It's hard to find more information about GK Chesterton's broader point.
Re: The Cult of Reason
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the article: > It's a nice excuse to get together and have a bit of a community spirit but without the religion aspect > It's not a church, it's a congregation of unreligious people. Seems more a gathering of same-minded persons than a real cult.
What's the jumping off point at which a gathering of like-minded people becomes a cult? Can "cult" be used to describe religious groups (or very zealous factional groups) without the pejorative connotations of the colloquial term? Or is "cult" basically a universally negative appellation?
2. The classical definition of "cult" has almost no overlap with today's perjorative evolution of the word and just means a system of worship.
Re: The Cult of Reason
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Culte" is neutral and "Secte" is the negative word.
Wouldn't "the Sect of Reason" be a much better English translation then? "Culte" in French and "sect" in English are neutral. "Secte" in French and "cult" in English have negative connotations.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the article: > It's a nice excuse to get together and have a bit of a community spirit but without the religion aspect > It's not a church, it's a congregation of unreligious people. Seems more a gathering of same-minded persons than a real cult.
What's the jumping off point at which a gathering of like-minded people becomes a cult? Can "cult" be used to describe religious groups (or very zealous factional groups) without the pejorative connotations of the colloquial term? Or is "cult" basically a universally negative appellation?
Here's some more differentiators, but you can search "warning signs for a cult"... there's no standard list that I'm aware of.
- Separating people from their outsider friends&family
- Over time absorbing all of member's financial assets
- Punishment for leaving
- Members discouraged from questioning orthodoxy
- Non-volunteer or otherwise coerced unpaid labor
- A culture of hiding information from outsiders
- The leader has exclusive claim to ultimate truth
- Regardless of harm, the leader's behavior is justified
Re: The Cult of Reason
#26Sounds a bit like Burning Man
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the jumping off point at which a gathering of like-minded people becomes a cult? Can "cult" be used to describe religious groups (or very zealous factional groups) without the pejorative connotations of the colloquial term? Or is "cult" basically a universally negative appellation?
No, a cult is like a mental disorder... by definition if it's not causing harm in the person's life it's not a disorder. Many cults disguise themselves as religious groups. Here's some more differentiators, but you can search "warning signs for a cult"... there's no standard list that I'm aware of. - Separating people from their outsider friends&family - Over time absorbing all of member's financial assets - Punishme…
Re: The Cult of Reason
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Culte" is neutral and "Secte" is the negative word.
Wouldn't "the Sect of Reason" be a much better English translation then? "Culte" in French and "sect" in English are neutral. "Secte" in French and "cult" in English have negative connotations.