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Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Post by leoh »

jondubois wrote: post #151
nanoanderson wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, what a nasty comment. Trying to think of what possible context they could put around this comment that would justify it.

Obviously you're not familiar with Marissa Mayer's work. I remember that before Mayer, Yahoo Mail was lightweight, fast and it displayed emails chronologically and in a well categorized way. After Marissa Mayer joined Yahoo, the Yahoo email client became slow and clunky and it grouped emails together in a strange way which made it hard to find stuff; thankfully I was able to figure out a way to disable this 'feature'…

I'm not sure how you can hold Meyer directly responsible for the clunky Yahoo email client. This reads as incredibly sexist.

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Post by jondubois »

leoh wrote: post #161
jondubois wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously you're not familiar with Marissa Mayer's work. I remember that before Mayer, Yahoo Mail was lightweight, fast and it displayed emails chronologically and in a well categorized way. After Marissa Mayer joined Yahoo, the Yahoo email client became slow and clunky and it grouped emails together in a strange way which made it hard to find stuff; thankfully I was able to figure out a way to disable this 'feature'…

I'm not sure how you can hold Meyer directly responsible for the clunky Yahoo email client. This reads as incredibly sexist.

The new Yahoo mail client was her incentive, it was all over the news and she was actively claiming credit for it. The worst part is that she was claiming that it was faster but all users felt that it was the opposite.

https://www.google.de/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2012/12/11/m...

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Post by rcar1046 »

BareNakedCoder wrote: post #137
rcar1046 wrote: post #125

I created a Google Finance replacement – https://stockdaddy.io – in my spare time. This can track your investments and returns including dividends for stocks and ETFs (real-time) and mutual funds (EOD). It’s basically a pure portfolio tracker without much of the frills of a full finance site. It's meant to be a solid performance tracker and good full screen layout to glance at throughout the day.

I get different looking 5-year charts for symbol HYG when I look on stockdaddy.io and finance.yahoo.com. Where do you get your data?

IEX whom I would say for the most part is very reliable, although I would only base actual trades off of your brokerage’s data and leave other sources like Yahoo and Stockdaddy for real-time portfolio tracking.

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Post by rcar1046 »

ISL wrote: post #79
danielaxelsen wrote: post #15

Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Just want to say Thank You! Has Bravos implemented imports for GF transactions, so I can spin up my exported-from-GF portfolios? GF had a nice export feature, but I never found anywhere that would import them for tracking. Thank you!

https://stockdaddy.io/ - Can import google finance portfolios directly or any other csv transaction files.

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Post by pantheon »

leoh wrote: post #161
jondubois wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously you're not familiar with Marissa Mayer's work. I remember that before Mayer, Yahoo Mail was lightweight, fast and it displayed emails chronologically and in a well categorized way. After Marissa Mayer joined Yahoo, the Yahoo email client became slow and clunky and it grouped emails together in a strange way which made it hard to find stuff; thankfully I was able to figure out a way to disable this 'feature'…

I'm not sure how you can hold Meyer directly responsible for the clunky Yahoo email client. This reads as incredibly sexist.

Why is it sexist? She did terrible at Yahoo. That's fact. Or you say, just because she is woman, people should say she did a good job?

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Post by klibertp »

nikolay wrote: post #153

Stay away from Google products and services! With all their stringent to the ridiculousness level hiring, they seem to hire calculators, not humans in the negative sense. They don't get families either - I haven't seen their diversity numbers, but maybe they are predominantly a bachelors' company, yet, they try to design products for families. For example, I am the family manager of our Google Play store account. Now…

> I repeat, keep off Google!

Many would agree, for many different reasons; some because of privacy concerns, lack of long-term guarantees that a service will work in the future, some because they don't like being a product instead of a customer (hence "customer support" being as it is), and so on. Many valid reasons, even if I don't necessarily share them.

> Short their stock!

This, however, feels like a completely different matter. Yes, there are reasons for not using Google, but they are very unlikely to influence the price of their stock. MSFT would be bankrupt at least twice in the 90s was that the case (and that's just one example).

So, I think that if you want to argue that their stock will tank, you should point out reasons other than that they treat their "customers" like crap. That, in itself, hardly ever resulted in financial problems for tech sector companies - as sad as it is :(

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Post by zero_intp »

z0r wrote: post #141
danielaxelsen wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly - I'm curious what you had in mind? Could you tell me any more about the use case?

I don't want to sign up for any more web apps or web only services. They keep shutting down

This is an under appreciated/represented sentiment. I wholly agree.

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Post by prepend »

taeric wrote: post #75
oconnor663 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Which is it? It's different people complaining in each case.

There has to be a name for this. Folks love saying "people complained when I did X, now people complain when I do Y." As if that proves something. Unless it is the same people, irrelevant. (Not that it is automatically relevant if it is the same people. But I get frustrated with this general game of moral equivalence somehow being a valid talking point.)

It is curious to me how people seem to accept certain narrative fallacies like 1) the complainers are the same; 2) if the complainers are the same, there are only two exclusive options in existence that must be chosen.

I work in an org with a lot of regulations and a rent seeking IT group different than development. I’ve heard a lot of people rationalizing decisions using emotion (eg, “they complain if we do, they complain if we don’t [;therefore their experience isn’t important to addres]”

It’s tough to solve and is based, I think, on having your measurement of success be a good story, because objective metrics are not really applicable.

In google’s case they make so much revenue and profit from search the rest of the company just kind of bounces around and doesn’t matter. So projects are run, it seems, off who has a great story. Sure, there’s massive data analysis showing things but those don’t matter. Why did a jillion people using finance used to matter, but not now.

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Post by swaggyBoatswain »

jondubois wrote: post #151
nanoanderson wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, what a nasty comment. Trying to think of what possible context they could put around this comment that would justify it.

Obviously you're not familiar with Marissa Mayer's work. I remember that before Mayer, Yahoo Mail was lightweight, fast and it displayed emails chronologically and in a well categorized way. After Marissa Mayer joined Yahoo, the Yahoo email client became slow and clunky and it grouped emails together in a strange way which made it hard to find stuff; thankfully I was able to figure out a way to disable this 'feature'…

Had to look her up, I remember now

Her gender bias discrimination / sexism is what drove many to leave the company, draining the company of its best employees

Other things in her tenure.

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Ex-Yahoo employee sues Marisa Mayer claiming she led an illegal purge of male employees.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3827244/Ex-Yahoo-emp...

Yahoo fine 35 million dollars for failing to disclose data breach.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/24/17275994/yahoo-sec-fine-2...

3 billion users affect by yahoo data breach.

https://www.avclub.com/yahoo-now-says-all-3-billion-user-acc...

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Basically, nothing go has come out of her working at yahoo, AFAIK. Everything went downhill when she became in chargeod

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Post by docker_up »

giarc wrote: post #10
docker_up wrote: post #4

It is mind boggling to me that both Google and Yahoo have thrown away their finance sites. It's utter garbage. And on the phone, Google Finance is even worse. They don't even use the same site or the same behavior, even though I'm pointing to the same URL. It's insane. Why would they completely disregard finance? Are they really not able to make a profitable site using ads?

When did Yahoo throw out their finance site? https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/

I meant it's a shadow of its former self from 5 years ago. It was consistently the best and most useful finance site, over Google Finance, and now the articles are terrible. The news feed for a company used to be great, but somehow it has been turned into something terrible and useless.
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