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Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Post by tanderson92 »

WorkUntilRetire wrote: post #50
tanderson92 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. I always worry when I'm presented a price plot over more than a few months that there is something masking the real picture, which is total return, or price + cash flow. For any "portfolio"-like feature you're going to want total return and not price action return.

Exactly! If I’m looking at a 5 year chart for any given stock, I don’t really care what the nominal price was, I care about the total return. Even more so when comparing 2 stocks. Killer feature would be historical charts that include re-invested dividends.

You can do this at morningstar.com

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Post by toss1 »

danielaxelsen wrote: post #40
mmanfrin wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies in advance if this sounds overly negative: this is not a replacement for Google Finance. This is a portfolio tracker. The first two things I checked for that made GF different and important (to me, at least) were company financials and an advanced stock search. Company financials are self explanatory (quarterly breakdowns of cash, income, etc), the stock search allowed you to pare down stocks based on marke…

Super helpful thanks. We're definitely early, and we don't have the resources yet that Google had to throw at GF! Fundamental data is coming soon, for sure. We'll show you 10 years of historical data (annual and quarterly) for income statement, cash flows, and balance sheet. Screening will come too, although it's not requested as often so we haven't prioritized it. The API, mobile apps, and improved charting are next…

Looks super-cool - nice vid demo. My only suggestion would be to prioritize the screening over certainly the mobile an probably the API.

My reasoning is that I do almost all real searching and analysis on the desktop, whereas mobile is just nice and handy for tracking an updates on the go. Also, screening is more immediately usable by a broader user set than the API functions (tho your spreadsheet integration is way cool!).

Just one small vote while cheering you on!

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Post by danielaxelsen »

toss1 wrote: post #62
danielaxelsen wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super helpful thanks. We're definitely early, and we don't have the resources yet that Google had to throw at GF! Fundamental data is coming soon, for sure. We'll show you 10 years of historical data (annual and quarterly) for income statement, cash flows, and balance sheet. Screening will come too, although it's not requested as often so we haven't prioritized it. The API, mobile apps, and improved charting are next…

Looks super-cool - nice vid demo. My only suggestion would be to prioritize the screening over certainly the mobile an probably the API. My reasoning is that I do almost all real searching and analysis on the desktop, whereas mobile is just nice and handy for tracking an updates on the go. Also, screening is more immediately usable by a broader user set than the API functions (tho your spreadsheet integration is way…

Super helpful feedback, thank you.

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Post by cloakedarbiter »

woodpanel wrote: post #52
danielaxelsen wrote: post #15

Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Hi Daniel, neat site and I'm really happy someone is taking this on! As the OP noted, the killer feature for me to choose GoogleFinance (GF) above all other "free equities tracking websites" [1] was its portfolio. I've just tried to see if your site addresses those pain points and it doesn't - but I think you're halfway there. What OP's "hypothetical portfolio" means is basically the tracking of a whole set of select…

> What OP's "hypothetical portfolio" means is basically the tracking of a whole set of selected equities (so in your site's case: the performance of everything within a watchlist, including a graph visualizing it plus all the common features like comparing that portfolio-graph to that of the Nasdaq, Dollar Index, BTC ...). [2]

> GF's UI was horrible, but they allowed to create endless amounts of those portfolios, which was really helpful for finding one's investment strategy because you could compare "ideas". Or you could gather groups of similar equities to track their performance and decide whether they are ripe for becoming "a new idea" (like "I believe that downturn of x is at some point going to halt, maybe then it's worth investing")

I just want to second this point made in the parent comment. What I've always wanted to do that I can't really do in an app out there, is compare my "what-if" scenarios (e.g. what if I had held onto 20% of my AAPL in 2015, instead of selling and buying NFLX and UA/UAA?). I always imagined that there'd be an easy visualization comparison between two scenarios, to allow me to "evaluate" certain buy/sell decisions I've made, retrospectively.

Re: Google throws away 12 years of work by investors (Portfolios in Google Finance)

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Post by charlesdm »

danielaxelsen wrote: post #15

Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Nice website! But I'm curious: where do you source the stock data from? Unless mistaken, if you want to redistribute the data (i.e. not just for personal trading), those data feeds generally run at >$100k a year.

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Post by zapita »

protomyth wrote: post #26
beaner wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's funny to me is that so many people complain about large tech companies eating up every product category and preventing competition. But when they later kill these products, people complain all the same. Which is it? Seems like an opportunity for someone else, if it was really being relied on that much. I suspect it wasn't. The author of the article said he hadn't checked in six years. Six years! And he's compl…

What's funny to me is that so many people complain about large tech companies eating up every product category and preventing competition. But when they later kill these products, people complain all the same. Which is it? Both. They expanded into an area and killed the competition then killed their product and left a void. See Google Reader for the life cycle.

Yes, exactly. Those are not contradictory. If anything, it makes it more obvious why unchecked Big Tech expansion into every market, subsidized by their core monopolies, is a bad thing for consumers in the long run.

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Post by jonknee »

charlesdm wrote: post #65
danielaxelsen wrote: post #15

Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Nice website! But I'm curious: where do you source the stock data from? Unless mistaken, if you want to redistribute the data (i.e. not just for personal trading), those data feeds generally run at >$100k a year.

Appears it's using IEX's API which is awesome and free.

https://iextrading.com/developer/

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Post by akudha »

danielaxelsen wrote: post #15

Hi - I'm the creator of https://bravos.co , a replacement for Google Finance. (I didn't have anything to do with this article being posted.) I actually left my job two months ago to work on this full-time... Google Finance used to be a "home page tab" for me and it was just killing me that I couldn't find a good alternative. Bravos.co features a clean interface for tracking public companies, cryptocurrencies, and eve…

Looks clean and loads fast! Where did you get past crypto data?

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Post by chkdsk »

rch wrote: post #7
docker_up wrote: post #4

It is mind boggling to me that both Google and Yahoo have thrown away their finance sites. It's utter garbage. And on the phone, Google Finance is even worse. They don't even use the same site or the same behavior, even though I'm pointing to the same URL. It's insane. Why would they completely disregard finance? Are they really not able to make a profitable site using ads?

When did Yahoo have their own finance site? (most of it is provided by a third party, or was when I worked for said provider)

Yahoo finance was the original finance site where your parents used to look up stock quotes for Nokia and Pets.com during the original tech bubble.
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