Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation • Hacker News Board

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#31

Post by uxcolumbo » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 8:06 AM UTC

Eventhough the transition effect is interesting on first sight, using it more than the initial few seconds made me feel uncomfortable. Can't really pin point it, but I think it's mainly to do with the title always shifting and me having to refocus and trying to read it.

Too much stuff is moving at once - you have the videos in the background and in the forground other stuff is moving too - I think that's what's causing the discomfort for me and having to work too hard to explore the content. Making it all a bit more subtle might have helped.

And 'polluting' the history with each slide state doesn't help either.

Animations like this need to be tested with users too.

Edit: typos

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#32

Post by mping » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 8:18 AM UTC

aikah wrote: post #26

tambourine_man wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flash has never been this smooth.

> Flash has never been this smooth. Yes it has. You could even create your own shaders/filters with a specialized language. Frankly it's great that things like that can be done with js/html but people did way more impressive things 15 years ago. I'm really not impressed at all, personally.

True, I remember seeing a site circa 2005 that had a completely crazy flash intro with 3d/360 camera pan thing - running on a regular 2005/6 computer.

I think things are more polished now, because of bandwidth we can afford large images, videos, etc but back in the day there was some truly impressive Flash stuff.

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#33

Post by boubiyeah » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 8:25 AM UTC

Gave me seasickness. And I'm not even sick on boats.

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#34

Post by jillesvangurp » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 9:46 AM UTC

Nice but a lot of form over function style design does not make the web a better place necessarily.

Nevertheless, WebGL is still a bit underused and this is a nice showcase. I imagine that together with WASM it will enable a lot of slick experiences when people start doing the things that currently require native applications.

E.g. most games have very slick and responsive UIs. There's no good reason why the web has to be the stuttering laggy mess that that causes your fans to spin up as soon as you scroll.

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#35

Post by glandium » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:43 AM UTC

On Firefox for Android, I get

This site has some features that are not supported by your current browser.

I recommend Using the latest version of Chrome.

... but it works with desktop Firefox...

Edit: in fact, it works in Firefox for Android if I enable desktop mode...

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#36

Post by fredley » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 11:20 AM UTC

So many of these scroll animation fuckery sites are made so that they only work with a trackpad, and even then probably only a mac trackpad (where flicking etc. work well).

Using a site like this with a mousewheel is near impossible.

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#37

Post by tambourine_man » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 11:32 AM UTC

aikah wrote: post #26

tambourine_man wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flash has never been this smooth.

> Flash has never been this smooth. Yes it has. You could even create your own shaders/filters with a specialized language. Frankly it's great that things like that can be done with js/html but people did way more impressive things 15 years ago. I'm really not impressed at all, personally.

Well, show me a link then. We can still run it (not for long).

I’m talking about hardware acceleration, antialias, no dropped frame and in sync with the monitor’s refresh rate.

Even a simple CSS3 animation beats the shit out of Flash in this regard.

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#38

Post by andy_ppp » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 11:35 AM UTC

I love GSAP but find the documentation and explanations for anything more than the basics very difficult.

Another similar example I liked: http://www.themustafacelik.com/

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#39

Post by aikah » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 11:42 AM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #37

aikah wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Flash has never been this smooth. Yes it has. You could even create your own shaders/filters with a specialized language. Frankly it's great that things like that can be done with js/html but people did way more impressive things 15 years ago. I'm really not impressed at all, personally.

Well, show me a link then. We can still run it (not for long). I’m talking about hardware acceleration, antialias, no dropped frame and in sync with the monitor’s refresh rate. Even a simple CSS3 animation beats the shit out of Flash in this regard.

> I’m talking about hardware acceleration, antialias, no dropped frame and in sync with the monitor’s refresh rate.

All supported by flash, I just told you about the possibility of coding your own shaders with a C like language where do you think these shaders were computed?

> Well, show me a link then. We can still run it (not for long).

You know damn well that most flash content has been retired from the web.

Re: Tao Tajima – WebGL and GreenSock Animation

#40

Post by tambourine_man » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 11:42 AM UTC

stevebmark wrote: post #11

This makes me miss Flash in a weird way. This is like what early Flash looked like. Flash performed better, usually looked more polished than this, and was WAY easier to author in than WebGL probably will ever be.

>Flash performed better, usually looked more polished than this…

Memory is a curious thing. Please provide some link to support this opinion. It is still possible to run it and prove it.