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Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by some_account » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 5:55 AM UTC

King-Aaron wrote: post #37

ggm wrote: post #36

I don't see WHS the the big issue is. Yes my phone went to red battery low power mode. So what? What aspects of this alter contract between me and Google over automatically applied updstes? I gave can implicitly ages ago. If they involuntarily disabled battery saving and caused me to loose service or drain and reduce battery life i could see an issue. Truly, bemused at the hate. What did you think the t&c said when y…

You've put into words exactly what I was thinking. From the thread: "Ok, but how is it that you have the power to control our phones this way? " Christ buddy. You have a phone thats made by Google. Google, the company that tracks you everywhere and rolls greenfield updates on all their other software. And then this person says they're going to turn 'allow modify system settings' off... What do these people seriously…

I think people with a Google phone should just implant a chip in their arm, reporting to Google. It's basically the same thing, and you can view your body information on a Google dashboard and get Google advice on health care, along with a Google map to get there.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by sandov » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 5:55 AM UTC

some_account wrote: post #38

ggm wrote: post #36

I don't see WHS the the big issue is. Yes my phone went to red battery low power mode. So what? What aspects of this alter contract between me and Google over automatically applied updstes? I gave can implicitly ages ago. If they involuntarily disabled battery saving and caused me to loose service or drain and reduce battery life i could see an issue. Truly, bemused at the hate. What did you think the t&c said when y…

I guess it depends on how you view your phone. Is it your phone or is it Googles phone that they can update with whatever software and settings they want to. The same debate is around Windows 10. Some people are fine with Microsoft getting a stream of privacy data from them. Others feel it's their device, not Microsofts.

It's your phone, and you voluntarily allowed Google to control it.

I didn't want Google to control my phone, so I installed LineageOS.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by krn » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 5:57 AM UTC

9935c101ab17a66 wrote: post #20

muks wrote: post #16

After my Samsung Galaxy S7 phone started having hardware issues, I looked to see if a phone running open source software was available, one that also could run the Android apps I currently use. I've had sucess with LineageOS 15.1 on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (codename "whyred"). Unfortunately the phone's LTE bands don't support every country, but it works fine here in India. The phone hardware costs USD 210 and buys…

Fully aware this might be a silly question, but why do they make you wait, and why does the time period vary so greatly?

Xiaomi temporarily locks the bootloader to prevent third-party Chinese retailers from bundling malware and adware with its phones sold on the international market[1].

[1] https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-anti-rollback-protecti...

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by mankash666 » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 5:59 AM UTC

muks wrote: post #16

After my Samsung Galaxy S7 phone started having hardware issues, I looked to see if a phone running open source software was available, one that also could run the Android apps I currently use. I've had sucess with LineageOS 15.1 on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (codename "whyred"). Unfortunately the phone's LTE bands don't support every country, but it works fine here in India. The phone hardware costs USD 210 and buys…

Is this advice geared towards the HN crowd - software developera & tech enthusiasts, or is this your recommendation for all?

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by some_account » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 6:00 AM UTC

sandov wrote: post #42

some_account wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it depends on how you view your phone. Is it your phone or is it Googles phone that they can update with whatever software and settings they want to. The same debate is around Windows 10. Some people are fine with Microsoft getting a stream of privacy data from them. Others feel it's their device, not Microsofts.

It's your phone, and you voluntarily allowed Google to control it. I didn't want Google to control my phone, so I installed LineageOS.

Same here. No issues, works great.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by tempestn » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 6:02 AM UTC

Clicked on this expecting it to be something about making sure people's phones didn't die while they were evacuated due to hurricanes or gas explosions. Now I'm curious how the response would have differed had that had been the case.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by colordrops » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 6:10 AM UTC

muks wrote: post #16

After my Samsung Galaxy S7 phone started having hardware issues, I looked to see if a phone running open source software was available, one that also could run the Android apps I currently use. I've had sucess with LineageOS 15.1 on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (codename "whyred"). Unfortunately the phone's LTE bands don't support every country, but it works fine here in India. The phone hardware costs USD 210 and buys…

LineageOS was working great for me on my Oneplus 3T for about 6 months, but something has gone wrong with recent updates. It has started slowing down to the point of being unusable and I have to reset my phone several times a day. There have been about 6 updates since I started seeing the issue and it hasn't been addressed.

I loathe going back to Oneplus's stock ROM as they modified it to kill background processes to make the phone seem like it has better battery life. I own a Tesla Model 3 and it uses the phone as a key, and the stock ROM doesn't work well with it at all.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by muks » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 6:13 AM UTC

mankash666 wrote: post #44

muks wrote: post #16

After my Samsung Galaxy S7 phone started having hardware issues, I looked to see if a phone running open source software was available, one that also could run the Android apps I currently use. I've had sucess with LineageOS 15.1 on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro (codename "whyred"). Unfortunately the phone's LTE bands don't support every country, but it works fine here in India. The phone hardware costs USD 210 and buys…

Is this advice geared towards the HN crowd - software developera & tech enthusiasts, or is this your recommendation for all?

It would take someone with reasonable technical skills to install LineageOS as it involves unlocking the phone's bootloader (depending on the choice of phone hardware), working around any anti-rollback features by flashing, flashing TWRP recovery, and then boot into TWRP and install LineageOS, GApps and Magisk (if you want root). But the OS once installed can be used by all. Take my non-technical cousin for example who looked at what I was doing and bought the same phone and made me put LineageOS on it and now uses it.

It isn't advice or suggestion BTW.. just my experience. :)

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by _emacsomancer_ » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 6:13 AM UTC

sandov wrote: post #42

some_account wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it depends on how you view your phone. Is it your phone or is it Googles phone that they can update with whatever software and settings they want to. The same debate is around Windows 10. Some people are fine with Microsoft getting a stream of privacy data from them. Others feel it's their device, not Microsofts.

It's your phone, and you voluntarily allowed Google to control it. I didn't want Google to control my phone, so I installed LineageOS.

Without GApps?

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Post by mankash666 » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 6:17 AM UTC

muks wrote: post #48

mankash666 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this advice geared towards the HN crowd - software developera & tech enthusiasts, or is this your recommendation for all?

It would take someone with reasonable technical skills to install LineageOS as it involves unlocking the phone's bootloader (depending on the choice of phone hardware), working around any anti-rollback features by flashing, flashing TWRP recovery, and then boot into TWRP and install LineageOS, GApps and Magisk (if you want root). But the OS once installed can be used by all. Take my non-technical cousin for example w…

Well beyond reason to assume something pedestrian for you - a developer - to be "reasonable skills" for the average Joe.

Do you build your own car? Or bike? Or home? Or even mattress? All of these can be done with reasonable skills, they aren't because you pay for a finished product, in most cases, for the economy to remain productive. No one ever said 'reinvent the wheel' for making progress.