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Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by StudentStuff »

StudentStuff wrote: post #135
farslan wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not available in the iOS app.

Not surprising, developing new features for iOS isn't Google's highest priority, they're targeting where most of the installed userbase is. Similar effects can be seen in the OTT market. Roku gets new features from Sling, Netflix and the other OTT players first, with Chromecast and Fire TV lagging by months or years, and these 2nd tier players are missing Amazon Prime Video (Chromecast) or YouTube (Fire TV) respectiv…

Heh, HN is great at downvoting without making a counterargument :P

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by andybak »

krzyk wrote: post #384
andybak wrote: post #64

> Outside of some of the bundling features Bundling (in the inbox) is THE reason for using Inbox. It's the only unique feature. It's the thing that changed how I use email. If I use folders it's the kiss of death for any email that a rule sends to that folder. I want a single list but with some items collapsed. Email went from unthreaded to threaded (reducing the complexity massively. Bundles takes that one step furt…

I hate bundling. They pushed it for all the github emails, and I had to unbundle them, separately for each github repo, super annoyingn.

> They pushed it

No. You didn't turn off the automatic categories. It's a single checkbox in settings.

My only bundles are the ones I've created and they work exactly how I want them.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by andybak »

davidpatrick wrote: post #383
andybak wrote: post #64

> Outside of some of the bundling features Bundling (in the inbox) is THE reason for using Inbox. It's the only unique feature. It's the thing that changed how I use email. If I use folders it's the kiss of death for any email that a rule sends to that folder. I want a single list but with some items collapsed. Email went from unthreaded to threaded (reducing the complexity massively. Bundles takes that one step furt…

Edison Mail has this and most features are talking about in here

Looks like a mobile-only app. I need something that runs in a browser as well. In fact - more so. I do most email management on my laptop.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by _wp3r »

Puer wrote: post #274
IvyMike wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shhhh! I'm convinced Voice only stays because it's under the radar of upper management. Don't remind them it exists!

It would be very unfortunate for me to lose my default phone number...

Interesting.

I wonder if any regulations around phone numbers is actually what it protecting Voice from getting nuked from CEO orbit.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by peeters »

z0r wrote: post #420
peeters wrote: post #363

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> Inbox on the other hand is very opinionated. It was designed around the idea that your inbox is a to-do list, and everything from the UI to features like pinning, snooze, and reminders is built around that assumption. Yeah this is a massive gut punch for that reason. Inbox is how I organize my life right now. I reply to myself, snooze emails for a specific day, track bills, all through Inbox. Say what you will abou…

Web apps are programs running on other peoples machines that you have no control over. If you enjoy the use of software and you don't even have the power to choose to downgrade when you don't like an upgrade, you're in a very poor position indeed. You're here on hacker news, you shouldn't be scared. This is just another reminder that Richard Stallman was right and an opportunity to form a community to create a replac…

Why whenever some software service goes down is there somebody chastising everyone for trusting a third party? That's how the world works. I trust the cities to keep the roads open. I trust the province to keep the hospitals staffed. I trust the farmers to produce my food, the engineers to inspect the buildings I'm in, the mechanic to keep my car on the raod, the police to keep my neighbourhood safe. Why is it when all of a sudden it's software, I'm not allowed to put my trust in a third party? I delegate responsibility for things in my life. I don't see stopping that as improving my quality of life.

If you want to maintain your own email server as a hobby, go for it. I have different things I want to do with that time.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by nickwalton00 »

munificent wrote: post #59
fra wrote: post #4

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When you have a successful product people love, you don't sunset it because the tech stack is too cumbersome. This has to mean that the product wasn't seeing the adoption they were hoping for.

Love don't pay the bills. If the product isn't helping the bottom line, companies will sunset it. "Free beer" would be the most widely adopted offering a bar could have, but it's not going to be good business for the bar.

That's sad. I would pay to use inbox.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by ex3ndr »

nathancahill wrote: post #2

Everyone suspected it for a while. Their active Twitter account refused for months to say when the app would be updated for the iPhone X. Personally, I suspect that they painted themselves into a bit of a corner with the tech stack they choose for Inbox. They used a unique C++ to JS compiler to run Inbox in the browser. This worked decently well in Chrome, but the experience in other browsers has been a lot choppier.…

J2CL is much much faster than average react js code. Even testing converted port of bouncy castle's RSA and AES was faster than google's crypto.js

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by z0r »

peeters wrote: post #436
z0r wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Web apps are programs running on other peoples machines that you have no control over. If you enjoy the use of software and you don't even have the power to choose to downgrade when you don't like an upgrade, you're in a very poor position indeed. You're here on hacker news, you shouldn't be scared. This is just another reminder that Richard Stallman was right and an opportunity to form a community to create a replac…

Why whenever some software service goes down is there somebody chastising everyone for trusting a third party? That's how the world works. I trust the cities to keep the roads open. I trust the province to keep the hospitals staffed. I trust the farmers to produce my food, the engineers to inspect the buildings I'm in, the mechanic to keep my car on the raod, the police to keep my neighbourhood safe. Why is it when a…

You trusting a lot of _well regulated_ industries and government run services is one matter. Blithely grouping them all together at all, let alone comparing them with software, is another thing altogether.

Setting aside the comparison you're trying to make, there are a lot of choices you can make. You can choose to rely on a web app hosted by a third party to secure all of your data and provide you with a consistent service. I think time and time again this is proven to be the most foolish choice, at least if you truly believe the service will continue to be provided. You can also choose to rely on third party services implementing common standards (i.e. POP and IMAP) and allow interchangeable third parties to provide services while your day to day interactions with your computer are managed by software that you run yourself. That software doesn't have to be open source or free. When you have purchased a license tied to a physical installation medium you are still in a better position to control how you choose to use your computer compared to being completely dependent on whatever trustusoksoftware.com is serving up today. Free software is best of all, but isn't the only alternative to web applications.

Anyways, I will come back around and address you on your own terms after all. You can draw parallels between open standards and the regulations governing all the services you claim are nothing more than time savers. You can also draw parallels between the civic duty to vote and take an active interest in the health of your society to the need to push for open standards and free software that respects user rights. Well functioning societies didn't pop up like mushrooms after rain overnight, and they don't continue to work without constant maintenance (not mere delegation of trust to third parties). Software needs to be treated as seriously as everything else you rely on. Personally you can save your time and ignore these issues entirely, but you can't just off hand compare anyone concerned with the current state of software freedom to being a model train builder and laugh it off as a waste of time.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by gideon_b »

verelo wrote: post #278
klandergren wrote: post #110

Inbox changed my relationship with email and it is unbelievably frustrating to hear it is being shuttered. I was a better digital person because of the app: I never forgot to reply, I kept years of ideas and small notes in reminders, and I could quickly triage and clear all incoming mail. These things in particular made Inbox stand out: * UI - simple, uncluttered mobile and desktop experience with uncomplicated keybo…

In the hope there is a google employee reading this, i want to shout a big plus one here! The next time the chance to look at the latest Microsoft offering comes up, I’ll do it, using vanilla gmail is just so clunky compared to inbox and i don’t want to go back to it.

From a Gmail PM:

"Thank you to everyone who made Inbox a part of your life. We're taking everything we've learned and rolling it into Gmail."

https://twitter.com/prlambert/status/1039982667989577728

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