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Medicinal Soft Drinks and Coca-Cola Fiends: The Toxic History of Soda Pop (2014)

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To this day, almost all aluminum cans carrying soda are lined with a resin that inhibits the insulin signaling pathway, and is associated with Type 2 diabetes. Most of the manufacturers make claims that it's harmless. https://www.coca-colacompany.com/contact-us/faqs Despite what they say, the scientific consensus is opposite, really, with the vast majority of academic papers suggesting quite harmful effects : https:/…

I was under the impression it's all aluminium cans that need a chemical buffer to prevent aluminium from leeching into the fluids. Long term Aluminium poisoning is probably worse than diabetes since it tends to eat away at your brain. Either way I'm not particularly fond of the flavor that aluminium cans seem to impart on drinks, and have been starting to avoid them more as I get older.

Yup - bisphenol-a containing resins are the precise lining that is used to prevent the aluminum from getting eaten by the carbonic acid.

There was also this fascinating study showing that BPA drove liver fat accumulation much more profoundly than fructose, which I find interesting. Both are clearly bad, but futzing with hormones is especially bad : https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0300483X120036...

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A friend of mine pointed out that all the original sodas were herbal beverages. Coca-Kola was made to deliver the beneficial properties of two tropical plants (coca leaf and kola nut [2]), root beers were flavored with various plant root extracts, Dr. Pepper has 21 natural flavors, etc. The plant extracts provided anti-oxidants, caffeine, and other medicinal substances. "Adaptogens or adaptogenic substances are used…

I keep a 2-liter bottle of Coca-Kola around for a small serving (8-ounces) of coca leaf and kola nut in the mid-afternoon period, after lunch & before dinner.

"Coca-tea" ;)

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I switched to OpenCola[0]. It tastes pretty close, given that it's based on a reverse-engineered/prototype of the Coca-Cola recipe. I like knowing what goes into it. Plus I put about half the sugar into it that the recipe calls for. There's a UK vendor that sells the concentrate of oils premade. I keep about a liter of the syrup (concentrate + water + sugar) in my fridge and add a tablespoon of so to 8oz of seltzer/m…

There must be a market for less sweet sodas. I don't like excessively sweet food nor excessively sweet drinks, I like sweet stuff but not on the level must products are. It's really difficult (at least in my city) to find balanced stuff, most of the time I only have two options: regular soda or zero-sugar soda (even sweeter).

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While the dosages were small, they were certainly habit-forming, and soda fountains stood to profit from such consistent customers. People typically eat breakfast, lunch and dinner daily. You might even say habitually. Around that time, it became obvious to the medical profession that there weren’t any health benefits to carbonated water on its own, so people started selling it as a treat With my first pregnancy, I t…

>> While the dosages were small, they were certainly habit-forming, and soda fountains stood to profit from such consistent customers.

> People typically eat breakfast, lunch and dinner daily. You might even say habitually.

They're talking about straight up cocaine and opiates. A glass of Coca-cola contained about 1/4 of a line of coke in it originally.

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While the dosages were small, they were certainly habit-forming, and soda fountains stood to profit from such consistent customers. People typically eat breakfast, lunch and dinner daily. You might even say habitually. Around that time, it became obvious to the medical profession that there weren’t any health benefits to carbonated water on its own, so people started selling it as a treat With my first pregnancy, I t…

>> While the dosages were small, they were certainly habit-forming, and soda fountains stood to profit from such consistent customers. > People typically eat breakfast, lunch and dinner daily. You might even say habitually. They're talking about straight up cocaine and opiates. A glass of Coca-cola contained about 1/4 of a line of coke in it originally.

I get that. I do.

Most spices have medicinal purposes. Inadequate muscle mass -- aka protein -- is linked to insulin resistance. I have eaten butter sandwiches to stop the bone and tooth pain no pain killers helped with.

Food has tremendous chemical impact on the body. We are only beginning to comprehend it.

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Sodas even became ubiquitous in our offices! And Hackathons! But to be real; offices having free soda available has its own health downsides; A cola at lunch can quickly become a cola for lunch and afternoon snack -- and maybe even a pick-me-up when tired or stressed. Only, it leads to weight gain through its sugars and the full supressing carbonic acid; acids lead to bone, nail, and organ side effects; and sugars, h…

I deliberately quit drinking soda for about a decade, and a few months ago during an appointment with my doctor, I realized it had slipped back into my diet. Turns out, really spicy ginger beers are still soda, and that I had become a soda drinker once again :(

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To this day, almost all aluminum cans carrying soda are lined with a resin that inhibits the insulin signaling pathway, and is associated with Type 2 diabetes. Most of the manufacturers make claims that it's harmless. https://www.coca-colacompany.com/contact-us/faqs Despite what they say, the scientific consensus is opposite, really, with the vast majority of academic papers suggesting quite harmful effects : https:/…

If BPA indeed cause those issues, we have more problems at hand than the coating in cans. BPA is everywhere those days.

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To this day, almost all aluminum cans carrying soda are lined with a resin that inhibits the insulin signaling pathway, and is associated with Type 2 diabetes. Most of the manufacturers make claims that it's harmless. https://www.coca-colacompany.com/contact-us/faqs Despite what they say, the scientific consensus is opposite, really, with the vast majority of academic papers suggesting quite harmful effects : https:/…

Glass bottled soft drinks are a treat in more ways than one it seems.

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While the dosages were small, they were certainly habit-forming, and soda fountains stood to profit from such consistent customers. People typically eat breakfast, lunch and dinner daily. You might even say habitually. Around that time, it became obvious to the medical profession that there weren’t any health benefits to carbonated water on its own, so people started selling it as a treat With my first pregnancy, I t…

I had a biology professor tell us in college that both Pepsi and Dr. Pepper were very high in phosphate, which settles your stomach.

I've actually tried it on several occasions when I was sick or nauseous for one reason or another and it really does work well. Just keep the bottle around and take a quick sip when you need some relief.

For me it works a lot better than ginger ale, even though that's supposed to help too.

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Sodas even became ubiquitous in our offices! And Hackathons! But to be real; offices having free soda available has its own health downsides; A cola at lunch can quickly become a cola for lunch and afternoon snack -- and maybe even a pick-me-up when tired or stressed. Only, it leads to weight gain through its sugars and the full supressing carbonic acid; acids lead to bone, nail, and organ side effects; and sugars, h…

I'm mostly with you, but carbonic acid is harmless. If anything it might raise the pH in your stomach.

Coca-Cola uses phosphoric acid. Here's a Coca-Cola bottling plant receiving a delivery of phosphoric acid.[1] It's marked with a 1805 (Phosphoric Acid, Corrosive, Class 8) placard. Of course, it's diluted as the product is mixed. This video shows the ingredients - tap water run through an de-ionizing plant, high fructose corn syrup in tank cars, phosphoric acid by the pallet load, flavoring (the "secret ingredient", in bags), and CO2 as a gas.

[1] https://youtu.be/7V6JO0Rfgas?t=189

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