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Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by geezerjay »

gonehome wrote: post #177
refurb wrote: post #174

Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan last which made their shares drop 8% for the day because he took one puff. Everyone went berserk because you are not supposed to do something like that if you are the CEO of a large company. The stock dropped because the CAO departed less than a month after starting at Telsa. Not because of the puff of marijuana.

I don’t think that’s actually true though it’s been repeated a lot - people have left without that large of a crash (and in this case it looks like they joined to help with going private so it’s not a huge surprise they left). The fast crashes seem more related to stupid media freak outs - similar to FB and the Cambridge Analytica thing.

I don't think it's reasonable to disregard any meaningful explanation just to keep pushing a baseless assertion.

Tesla's finances are a perenial source of concern and if Tesla's chief accounting officer leaves the company in the middle of another row regarding Tesla's financial health, I really doubt a puff is capable of raising more concerns.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by 0x8BADF00D »

ThomPete wrote: post #150

This is why I more or less stopped reading or watching the news. If something is important I will find out. If I want to understand the world better I will either read a book about a given subject, ask someone who knows something, explore it on my own or debate it with someone who holds the opposite view of me. News especially these days is mostly sensationalist gossip made by people who's primary incentives is to ge…

> If you want to have another example besides this weird can completely forced article look no further to the Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan last which made their shares drop 8% for the day because he took one puff. Everyone went berserk because you are not supposed to do something like that if you are the CEO of a large company. Instead of actually listening to the interview which was almost 3 hours and super interesting, that puff became what the media took away from it. The media is no longer in the service of the people it's in the service of the clicks that's about it because it's much more fun to be outraged and gossip than to actually try and understand.

It doesn’t matter though. Let them continue to waste their brain power on meaningless nonsense like “optics” or how something looks.

The rest of us will continue to learn and innovate. I learned a lot, especially about how an electric plane with VTOL works. Honestly, it was one of the most inspiring things I’ve ever watched in my life.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by dragonwriter »

RIMR wrote: post #110
Retric wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On C-SPAN those jabs don't seem like much, but they are mostly what's included on regular news coverage. Making them the main point of the exercise.

The point of the exercise was never to make the news, it's about governing. The news just doesn't like reporting on the boring stuff.

> The point of the exercise was never to make the news, it's about governing.

Then why the empty chair theatrics; why reject, in a hearing notionally about policy, the Google executive most appropriate for policy issues; why the pretense of national importance of having particular witnesses with dramatic complaints about their absence when the committee only used voluntary invitations and not subpoenas compelling testimony?

It may not be all theatrics, but it's definitely more about theatrics than governing.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by dragonwriter »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #104
georgiecasey wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i agree, in this time of outrage culture, i don't know why anybody at the centre of any controversy gives it oxygen. anything you say is another story. some would say you need to get your point of view across but i'd say people have made up their mind anyway. say nothing and the media and public move on to the next story.

The point of political discourse is never to change your opponent's mind, it's to sway the undecided people to align with you instead of them. That's why it's so adversarial.

> The point of political discourse is never to change your opponent's mind, it's to sway the undecided people to align with you instead of them.

In the US, it's mostly not about that, either; it's about creating enthusiasm in those already aligned with you or dampening it in those aligned with your opponent.

(Pretending to try to sway the opposition but using arguments which primarily resonate with your base so it just makes your base more angry with the opposition for their obstinacy is a common tactic, here.)

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by ThomPete »

refurb wrote: post #174

Elon Musk interview on Joe Rogan last which made their shares drop 8% for the day because he took one puff. Everyone went berserk because you are not supposed to do something like that if you are the CEO of a large company. The stock dropped because the CAO departed less than a month after starting at Telsa. Not because of the puff of marijuana.

I don't think that was the only reason and since it came back up that still shows there is an issue with how the media drives stock.

Not that there is anything new about that observation, that's how it's always been but the puff was literally everywhere and in combination with the leaving I am fairly certain it had an impact since it's now back up again.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by geezerjay »

y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #98
dibstern wrote: post #80

I don’t understand people on here complaining about the Senate demanding that the leaders of a business answer for its actions. Sending your lawyer or an underling is (1) a show of disrespect, (2) it shows you’re not taking responsibility for your company, and (3) when the person answering the questions isn’t really in charge, they can’t answer properly and they can’t commit their companies to behaving differently. P…

I don't think it's pro-Google, I think it has to do with the fact that these hearings are made up of a gang of angry old people with God complex that not only do not understand technology, but don't really have a desire to understand it nor the desire to really change anything. I don't blame Google one bit for not wanting to waste time and be ridiculed by these clowns.

> these hearings are made up of a gang of angry old people with God complex that not only do not understand technology, but don't really have a desire to understand it nor the desire to really change anything.

Those angry old people were chosen by their constituents to represent them in public affairs. Supposedly their roles and their actions are the basis of a democratic regime.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by at-fates-hands »

I can honestly see him being withdrawn as just not caring or not wanting to be apart of the company or the culture. He shows up every know and then again just to keep his standing. He can reap the financial stability it offers and still work on his moonshots or other pet projects.

I know a lot of college buddies who were some of the smartest people I knew. When they hit their 30's, they just had enough of the go go go lifestyle and they suddenly wanted to be alone and just enjoy life either by themselves or with a very small group of special friends.

I can see Larry being like this. He just wants to be by himself and out of the spotlight.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by dragonwriter »

dibstern wrote: post #80

I don’t understand people on here complaining about the Senate demanding that the leaders of a business answer for its actions. Sending your lawyer or an underling is (1) a show of disrespect, (2) it shows you’re not taking responsibility for your company, and (3) when the person answering the questions isn’t really in charge, they can’t answer properly and they can’t commit their companies to behaving differently. P…

> I don’t understand people on here complaining about the Senate demanding that the leaders of a business answer for its actions.

The Senate didn't demand anything.

Some members of the Senate are just engaging in theatrical complaints about someone declining a voluntary invitation.

If they wanted to demand compliance, they have the power to do that. That they chose not to indicates their real view of the substantive importance more clearly than their fake drama does.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Post by halflings »

dibstern wrote: post #80

I don’t understand people on here complaining about the Senate demanding that the leaders of a business answer for its actions. Sending your lawyer or an underling is (1) a show of disrespect, (2) it shows you’re not taking responsibility for your company, and (3) when the person answering the questions isn’t really in charge, they can’t answer properly and they can’t commit their companies to behaving differently. P…

> Sending your lawyer or an underling is (1) a show of disrespect, (2) it shows you’re not taking responsibility for your company, and (3) when the person answering the questions isn’t really in charge, they can’t answer properly and they can’t commit their companies to behaving differently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Walker

"Kent Walker currently serves as Senior Vice President for Global Affairs and Chief Legal Officer at Google"

"He served as an Assistant U.S. attorney with the United States Department of Justice and advised the US Attorney General on technology policy issues"

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