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FBI Mysteriously Closes New Mexico Observatory

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Re: FBI Mysteriously Closes New Mexico Observatory

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Wouldn't surprise me if some meth manufactures found the place to be fairly empty and was operating out of one of the buildings. Only to get caught shipping product somewhere and the FBI backtracked it to the observatory.

Would that entail a Blackhawk helicopter and this veil of secrecy?

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350 pounds (or 10 tons? Actual amount is unknown) of mercury

Do observatories usually have hundreds of pounds of mercury?

Some observatories (including this one it seems) use liquid mercury as mirrors:

https://sunspot.solar/about/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_mirror_telescope

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Apparently it has “excellent views of Holloman AFB and White Sands Missile Range” ( https://reddit.com/r/SpecialAccess/comments/9f91sm/_/e5uy1fd... ) . Further down, someone says that someone claims that the Chinese were using the antenna array at the observatory to spy on missile tests at WSMR. If the place was truly low on staff then this theory may not be so far fetched.

The views of the AFB and missile range are truly excellent.

Google Maps panoramic view: https://goo.gl/ckkCQc

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> my guess is armed extremists threatening to take it over? ... why?

350 pounds (or 10 tons? Actual amount is unknown) of mercury

OK, I'll bite: why would extremists want a whole bunch of mercury?

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Apparently it has “excellent views of Holloman AFB and White Sands Missile Range” ( https://reddit.com/r/SpecialAccess/comments/9f91sm/_/e5uy1fd... ) . Further down, someone says that someone claims that the Chinese were using the antenna array at the observatory to spy on missile tests at WSMR. If the place was truly low on staff then this theory may not be so far fetched.

Since it's just about abandoned it's quite possible that foreign agents covertly installed surveillance devices to monitor the nearby bases OR someone noticed something or saw someone trespassing. That would certainly explain that level of activity including a blackhawk.

Re: FBI Mysteriously Closes New Mexico Observatory

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Apparently it has “excellent views of Holloman AFB and White Sands Missile Range” ( https://reddit.com/r/SpecialAccess/comments/9f91sm/_/e5uy1fd... ) . Further down, someone says that someone claims that the Chinese were using the antenna array at the observatory to spy on missile tests at WSMR. If the place was truly low on staff then this theory may not be so far fetched.

I'm skeptical of that theory. Sunspot is up in the Lincoln National Forest. There are multiple trails and locations that have a great view of White Sands and Holloman AFB, which are located in the basin below. There isn't anything special about the view from Sunspot that I can recall.

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Apparently it has “excellent views of Holloman AFB and White Sands Missile Range” ( https://reddit.com/r/SpecialAccess/comments/9f91sm/_/e5uy1fd... ) . Further down, someone says that someone claims that the Chinese were using the antenna array at the observatory to spy on missile tests at WSMR. If the place was truly low on staff then this theory may not be so far fetched.

The national RCS test facility is at Holloman, all kinds of interesting test pilot units out there as per the public website.

If you pull the list of current NOTAMs for Holloman, normally the tower is part time but is open continuous from 10-sept to 14-sept. Must be busy. As per the NOTAMs they are also doing a lot of construction work at Holloman, heavy construction vehicles all over and wingspan limitations to avoid hitting them.

My guess is the somewhat abandoned research facility will come off lockdown after the 14th.

My understanding of the research facility is its in transition and likely unsecured; once its secured to some minimal level, law enforcement will ignore it when they're doing something "interesting" at Holloman.

Or, when whatever test equipment they're installing at Holloman is covered by an opaque radome, they'll reopen the research facility.

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Apparently it has “excellent views of Holloman AFB and White Sands Missile Range” ( https://reddit.com/r/SpecialAccess/comments/9f91sm/_/e5uy1fd... ) . Further down, someone says that someone claims that the Chinese were using the antenna array at the observatory to spy on missile tests at WSMR. If the place was truly low on staff then this theory may not be so far fetched.

The national RCS test facility is at Holloman, all kinds of interesting test pilot units out there as per the public website. If you pull the list of current NOTAMs for Holloman, normally the tower is part time but is open continuous from 10-sept to 14-sept. Must be busy. As per the NOTAMs they are also doing a lot of construction work at Holloman, heavy construction vehicles all over and wingspan limitations to avoi…

What do RCS and NOTAM stand for? Also, is there a link where you can, as you say, "pull" this data, or is that from a non-public system? Thanks.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The national RCS test facility is at Holloman, all kinds of interesting test pilot units out there as per the public website. If you pull the list of current NOTAMs for Holloman, normally the tower is part time but is open continuous from 10-sept to 14-sept. Must be busy. As per the NOTAMs they are also doing a lot of construction work at Holloman, heavy construction vehicles all over and wingspan limitations to avoi…

What do RCS and NOTAM stand for? Also, is there a link where you can, as you say, "pull" this data, or is that from a non-public system? Thanks.

RCS = Radar Cross Section, so they are measuring how a plane appears on radar in various scenarios.

NOTAM = Notice to Airmen, info bulletins about all kinds of things relevant to air traffic (from "this area is off limits temporarily" over "this airport has a broken navigation beacon" to "there's a festival here that's allowed to point lasers at the sky")

EDIT: In the US can be fetched from https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/ – Location HMN is Holloman AFB

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