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Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Re: Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Post by notfromhere »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #67
forapurpose wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Goverment officials can just ignore financial efforts of private companies, when their reelection campaign is not dependent on that money. I'm not sure what you mean. Isn't the whole problem that winning elections is heavily dependent on money?

In a one party state like NY all you have to do is win the primary.

No. The difference is that NY Dem primary voters are over 50% in NYC, NY state voters are a greater portion in the general election.

So running too left can win you the primary but lose the general.

Cuomo is trying to move left but not too left to leave him vulnerable to a state challenge

Re: Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Post by JakeKalstad »

jdanp wrote: post #73
hnmcQIOoQUDv wrote: post #63

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She's not going to win, but Cuomo is going to lose reelection. He's so thoroughly fucked up the subway he's lost NYC.

God I hope so. I'm in for Larry Sharpe all the way.

One can only hope. Unfortunately the NYC mentality is more excited to throw money at the dumpster fire and complain endlessly than accept that it needs to be starved and restructured.

Re: Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Post by dorsdag »

danschumann wrote: post #24

I'm from Wisconsin.... I reallly wish someone would get on the ball legalizing it here.

Medical marijuana is a part of Tony Evers official agenda[0], so we definitely have the Democratic party leader advocating for it. I think it would be difficult without some Democratic control of the statehouses, but I think there's a strong fiscal argument to be made as well, so I wouldn't rule it out.

[0]https://tonyevers.com/plan/ (ctrl-f marijuana)

Re: Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

lolc wrote: post #68
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #66

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When I was in Msia I talked with our younger guide about it. He was well aware the risk was not worth it. I was a little surprised at how strictly treated drugs. There is no reason to lay your life on the line for pot. It’s ridiculous to hang someone for that. Too bad people can’t claim it’s even mildly addictive after years and years of saying it isn’t. Punishment and crime obviously don’t fit. But... He chose to ha…

> He knew how illegal it was. Oh yes the police had to arrest him. The judges just apply the law anyway. And the executioners hanging him will be following orders. Looks like the only guy left to be be blamed here is the guy, because he had the choice, didn't he? Let's turn this around! Everyone of those involved knows what that law does. All of them could have walked away and said: "Fuck that law, I'm not enforcing…

>Oh yes the police had to arrest him.

Yea, I mean, a tenant of a just society is equal enforcement of the law.

>All of them could have walked away and said: "Fuck that law, I'm not enforcing it."

That's not a goal. That's a serious problem. Even if you think the law is unjust. You need to change the law, you can't just not enforce it.

You're arguing for something you would be horrified to have.

Re: Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Post by lolc »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #85
lolc wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He knew how illegal it was. Oh yes the police had to arrest him. The judges just apply the law anyway. And the executioners hanging him will be following orders. Looks like the only guy left to be be blamed here is the guy, because he had the choice, didn't he? Let's turn this around! Everyone of those involved knows what that law does. All of them could have walked away and said: "Fuck that law, I'm not enforcing…

>Oh yes the police had to arrest him. Yea, I mean, a tenant of a just society is equal enforcement of the law. >All of them could have walked away and said: "Fuck that law, I'm not enforcing it." That's not a goal. That's a serious problem. Even if you think the law is unjust. You need to change the law, you can't just not enforce it. You're arguing for something you would be horrified to have.

I'd be surprised if that law in Malaysia was applied in a way approaching equal treatment. But sure, let's talk in the abstract: Even if a thousand people have been hanged: If we can spare one, we must do so! One injustice must not beget another in the name of equality.

And yes selective enforcement is a problem. But I want the people in charge to not enforce that law at all: They must refuse to arrest, judge, or kill based on that law. Which is not selective enforcement. They don't choose whom to apply it to, they just don't apply it at all. Which means everybody is treated equally with regard to that law.

Our history is full of instances where a law was not enforced by those in charge. In some instances we say that not enforcing it was wrong (say, corruption) in others we say that they did right (say, race discrimination). This often set a precedent to changing the law.

Ideally it sure would have been nice if a bad law had never been enacted or if it had been abolished when it soured. But what if it didn't? I'm talking about that. Real societies where bad laws do real damage.

Re: Manhattan DA's office drops more than 3,000 open marijuana cases

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Post by digianarchist »

hnmcQIOoQUDv wrote: post #63
digianarchist wrote: post #39

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Cuomo's polling numbers are up today but even last week he was 40 points ahead. She hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning this primary.

She's not going to win, but Cuomo is going to lose reelection. He's so thoroughly fucked up the subway he's lost NYC.

Even in Nixon stays on the ballot Cuomo is still going to win.
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