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Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They offered their legal guy who is also one of the main leaders at Google and is probably the right person to talk about this but Congress refused. They want figureheads.

Which should tell folks what kind of hearing this was.

It makes sense to get the person at the top. They are ultimately responsible/accountable for things. They are well prepared in advance so why not go for them?

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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I might be missing something here but my thinking is that Google Inc/Alphabet is bigger than Larry Page. If for whatever reason he was not able to attend he could have sent a representative chosen from among the senior executives. It seems that neither his attendance nor Google's participation in the whole thing was not mandatory

According to the article they did offer to send someone else. Presumable the senate was not satisfied with anyone other than the top guy.

They did seem to find Sandberg acceptable.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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I would feel much better about being a google user if they were standing up strongly for the original "do no evil" ethos. Where is Page indeed? It really seems like the ethical stance has faded away.

I always felt that "don't be evil" is a shallow and effectively vacuous feel-good slogan because they never spelled out what it means for them not to be evil, which I think is a completely non-trivial question.

I always felt it was a bit like that old saw about not knowing how to define porn, but "I know when I see it." I took it as the broadest possible encouragement to Do The Right Thing as you see fit instead of spending a lot of time second-guessing what corporate would think.

-- disclaimer: never worked there

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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It is interesting that Larry Page stays out of the spotlight so much. Everyone knows who Mark Zuckerberg is, but many probably couldn't tell you who the CEO of Google/Alphabet is.

But could we not flip that around? That is, Zuck goes for the limelight (why?) while his peers do not? On the other hand Dorsey isn't low profile and I don't think most (non-tech) people would recognize him. Ev Williams? Even less so. Prehaps, sometimes, it's also the media who makes or breaks public perceptions?

How many twitter movies have been made? The facebook movie pushed his platform higher.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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I like him giving the the middle finger. Why does he have to satisfy a bunch of egomaniac corrupt politician who has been net negative for the society. Why we have to watch in awe of their complete disconnect from current affairs of the society due to their total ignorance?

Because as a voter and citizen, I want my politicians keeping Google and other tech companies in check, and regulate them if necessary.

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Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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It is interesting that Larry Page stays out of the spotlight so much. Everyone knows who Mark Zuckerberg is, but many probably couldn't tell you who the CEO of Google/Alphabet is.

I mention this on a somewhat regular basis. Most people know nothing about Sundar while they will bring up Zuck all the time. It's odd how different the two organizations operate at the top.

Sundar isn't a founder and most will forget his name when he moves on if they ever knew.

Tim Cook is more well known but will never reach Steve.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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I like him giving the the middle finger. Why does he have to satisfy a bunch of egomaniac corrupt politician who has been net negative for the society. Why we have to watch in awe of their complete disconnect from current affairs of the society due to their total ignorance?

"Hey Larry, wanna head down to the Senate hearing so a bunch of morons can grill you about stuff they don't understand?"

Nope.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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It is interesting that Larry Page stays out of the spotlight so much. Everyone knows who Mark Zuckerberg is, but many probably couldn't tell you who the CEO of Google/Alphabet is.

But could we not flip that around? That is, Zuck goes for the limelight (why?) while his peers do not? On the other hand Dorsey isn't low profile and I don't think most (non-tech) people would recognize him. Ev Williams? Even less so. Prehaps, sometimes, it's also the media who makes or breaks public perceptions?

Facebook got "The Social Network", Google got..."The Internship"?

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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I would feel much better about being a google user if they were standing up strongly for the original "do no evil" ethos. Where is Page indeed? It really seems like the ethical stance has faded away.

Idealism goes away once a company has reached a certain size and has to reach for big growth like Google. They all have to turn into big faceless corporations. That's why we shouldn't celebrate things like trillion dollar companies or the richest man in the world but we should celebrate small companies. That's where ethics and also innovation can happen .

Or maybe this is largely a manufactured issue. Alphabet sent Walker, but the committee didn't allow him to sit down. Between him and Salgado, the experts that Page and Pichai defer to, I don't think there's anyone better qualified to talk about these issues, because they deal with them all the time. If you want to have a meaningful conversation, that is. The problem is that the hearing was mostly an excuse for the senators to posture and to go on off topic rants about pet peeves. It's a media event, not a venue to get anything of substance done. Page has little tolerance for such BS.

While the senators' whining was to be expected, because it largely called their bluff, I was more disappointed by the media's acceptance of the lines that Walker was not the right person to be there and that he was "a lawyer" (should we send home all politicians with a law degree?). These are policy issues, so you talk to the experts and leaders who make the policy calls.

Re: Where in the World Is Larry Page?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They offered their legal guy who is also one of the main leaders at Google and is probably the right person to talk about this but Congress refused. They want figureheads.

Which should tell folks what kind of hearing this was.

No need to guess. You can look at the treatment Jack and Sheryl received. A bunch of ignorant, annoyed blowhards basically talked at them for a few hours, accomplishing nothing and expanding the pool of useful knowledge exactly zero.
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