UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
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#2I have a suspicion that at least part of the drive for Brexit comes from the determination of the British security services to preserve their last little island of unaccountable Empire. There have been conflicts with ECHR over torture, "extraordinary rendition", the treatment of Republicans in Northern Ireland, and (repeatedly) over mass surveillance.
One former "M", Richard Dearlove, is an overt Brexit campaigner.
(Edit: yes I know leaving the EU does not automatically exit ECHR, but it's a prerequisite, and the same people are generally campaigning against ECJ and ECHR as well)
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#3I have a suspicion that at least part of the drive for Brexit comes from the determination of the British security services to preserve their last little island of unaccountable Empire. There have been conflicts with ECHR over torture, "extraordinary rendition", the treatment of Republicans in Northern Ireland, and (repeatedly) over mass surveillance. One former "M", Richard Dearlove, is an overt Brexit campaigner. (…
ECHR is not a part of the European Union, so Brexit won't take us out of it.
However, I believe that the EU requires members be signatories of the ECHR, so Brexit would make leaving it much easier.
It's well documented that Theresa May wants to leave the ECHR; somewhat alarming since both Russia and Azerbaijan, countries with comparatively poor records on human rights, are signatories.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#4I have a suspicion that at least part of the drive for Brexit comes from the determination of the British security services to preserve their last little island of unaccountable Empire. There have been conflicts with ECHR over torture, "extraordinary rendition", the treatment of Republicans in Northern Ireland, and (repeatedly) over mass surveillance. One former "M", Richard Dearlove, is an overt Brexit campaigner. (…
The ECHR is completely separate from the EU so no matter what way the actual Brexit goes, they will still be a member of the ECHR. Whether they might want to leave that as well is another matter.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#5I have a suspicion that at least part of the drive for Brexit comes from the determination of the British security services to preserve their last little island of unaccountable Empire. There have been conflicts with ECHR over torture, "extraordinary rendition", the treatment of Republicans in Northern Ireland, and (repeatedly) over mass surveillance. One former "M", Richard Dearlove, is an overt Brexit campaigner. (…
ECHR is not a part of the European Union, so Brexit won't take us out of it. However, I believe that the EU requires members be signatories of the ECHR, so Brexit would make leaving it much easier. It's well documented that Theresa May wants to leave the ECHR; somewhat alarming since both Russia and Azerbaijan, countries with comparatively poor records on human rights, are signatories.
In fact, as far as I know the only European states that are not part of ECHR and Council of Europe are the Vatican (since they're a theocracy...), Kosovo since it has limited international recognition, Kazakhstan and Belarus over human rights violations.
No European state that'd be eligible has chosen to voluntarily stay outside. Azerbaijan and Russia are the closest to being in trouble of the current members (Russias voting rights were suspended over the annexation of Crimea; Azerbaijan is implicated in corruption to step criticism over Aliyev's rule).
The "European states outside the CoE club" is not exactly one to strive for membership of, to the extent even a lot of Tory MPs in favour of Brexit are opposed to leave the ECHR; David Davis in fact threatened to rebel over it at one point.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#6Is this the end of the case or is there some future sentencing? I find it hard to believe they weren't aware the programs violated human rights law, and I'm not sure what we're hoping a court confirming it's bad will accomplish.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
ECHR is not a part of the European Union, so Brexit won't take us out of it. However, I believe that the EU requires members be signatories of the ECHR, so Brexit would make leaving it much easier. It's well documented that Theresa May wants to leave the ECHR; somewhat alarming since both Russia and Azerbaijan, countries with comparatively poor records on human rights, are signatories.
In fact, as far as I know the only European states that are not part of ECHR and Council of Europe are the Vatican (since they're a theocracy...), Kosovo since it has limited international recognition, Kazakhstan and Belarus over human rights violations. No European state that'd be eligible has chosen to voluntarily stay outside. Azerbaijan and Russia are the closest to being in trouble of the current members (Russia…
[OT] Kazakhstan is Central Asia.
I'm sure this is one of the many true reasons for Brexit, all of them hidden from the mass of people voting for it.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#8I have a suspicion that at least part of the drive for Brexit comes from the determination of the British security services to preserve their last little island of unaccountable Empire. There have been conflicts with ECHR over torture, "extraordinary rendition", the treatment of Republicans in Northern Ireland, and (repeatedly) over mass surveillance. One former "M", Richard Dearlove, is an overt Brexit campaigner. (…
ECHR is not a part of the European Union, so Brexit won't take us out of it. However, I believe that the EU requires members be signatories of the ECHR, so Brexit would make leaving it much easier. It's well documented that Theresa May wants to leave the ECHR; somewhat alarming since both Russia and Azerbaijan, countries with comparatively poor records on human rights, are signatories.
I continue to be harassed often daily often violently since t spent a six year sentence inprison for breach of a order that never existed, procured or forged by a social worker to remove me from being able to prevent him defrauding my elderly mother. I have been almost laughed at by judges. I was actually told to forget my right to trial by a senior judge.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fact, as far as I know the only European states that are not part of ECHR and Council of Europe are the Vatican (since they're a theocracy...), Kosovo since it has limited international recognition, Kazakhstan and Belarus over human rights violations. No European state that'd be eligible has chosen to voluntarily stay outside. Azerbaijan and Russia are the closest to being in trouble of the current members (Russia…
[OT] Kazakhstan is Central Asia. I'm sure this is one of the many true reasons for Brexit, all of them hidden from the mass of people voting for it.
I think it is that we can't do anything about a vast number of serious criminals without cessation from any appearance of such laws. I know that in isolated cases the law is bluntly ignored and treated with contempt.
Re: UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
ECHR is not a part of the European Union, so Brexit won't take us out of it. However, I believe that the EU requires members be signatories of the ECHR, so Brexit would make leaving it much easier. It's well documented that Theresa May wants to leave the ECHR; somewhat alarming since both Russia and Azerbaijan, countries with comparatively poor records on human rights, are signatories.
In fact, as far as I know the only European states that are not part of ECHR and Council of Europe are the Vatican (since they're a theocracy...), Kosovo since it has limited international recognition, Kazakhstan and Belarus over human rights violations. No European state that'd be eligible has chosen to voluntarily stay outside. Azerbaijan and Russia are the closest to being in trouble of the current members (Russia…
It's surprising to find that the ECHR does not consider same-sex marriage a human right.