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Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by tkmo »

threeseed wrote: post #298
tkmo wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In proper terms, perhaps, but things like Trump, Brexit, and strongly anti-immigrant, populist conservative, leaders like Salvini, Orban, etc., in Europe, are all generally placed in the same camp by the media. Ultimately we are discussing the visible rage and despisement towards the winnning side of a national US election vote. That is incredibly concerning coming from a company as powerful as Google, and we know th…

The concern around Trump extends to close to 70% of the electorate according to recent polling. It isn’t isolated. And given Trump’s anti-immigrant stance Google executives being immigrants themselves would have every right to voice their concern.

Trump's stance is anti illegal immigrant which should not affect any Google execs.

Re: approval ratings, its a moot point. Trump has enjoyed generally similar approval ratings to Obama (at most single digit percentage points lower) and ultimately won a free and fair election in a first world Republic.

Having the leaders of a global monopoly megacorporation display this kind of disdain for the elected leader of the country and everyone who supports him, and (by implication) similar populist leaders across Europe (and their supporters), is extremely, deeply, disconcerting.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by snaky »

ehsankia wrote: post #121
throwaway_trust wrote: post #61

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> I think they are going to fail, and quietly increase the human involvement once they realize that their AI isn't good enough. Then they will slowly scale back the humans as their AI improves, until the next controversy when they realize that they still need humans. Exactly. AI is not good at subjective decisions of qualitative data. For example, nobody knows any political candidate's net worth apart from IRS, until…

Realistically there doesn't exist a good solution for this. That's why every single site out there with user content that is large enough is struggling with moderation. There is no solution that scales up to billions of users, and while it's true that AI most likely won't work, it is the best they've got right now. Do you have a better solution? Because Google has hired some of the smartest people and even then they…

> Do you have a better solution?

There is a somewhat working solution, but it might be incompatible with American voter (for some time) https://www.scmp.com/news/china/poliitics/article/2162036/ch...

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by mikejb »

oriol16 wrote: post #279
justaaron wrote: post #271

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

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You have to be a liberal to dislike Trump? What the fuck is up with all this "you have to be in one of two buckets" mentality?

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

davedx wrote: post #290
oriol16 wrote: post #283

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Talking politics at work is only ok if it's left wing. Mocking Trump and his voters, calling people racist and morons, that gets you an applause. Showing understanding for the opposite site gets you in trouble. That's chapter one of "surviving in the workplace in 2018".

The opposite side, with its “very fine people”?

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

jacquesm wrote: post #209
jessaustin wrote: post #49

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I suppose that's possible , but it seems rather convoluted. Why wouldn't those hypothetical funders simply bribe both branches of the status quo party like every other rich asshole does? I might change my mind about all this if any of the actually-different young democrats who have forsworn such financing are actually elected this fall...

I'm not aware of any such ridiculous sites on the left side of the spectrum, insofar as you could call the democrats 'left', in most countries a party with their political stance would still be on the right. Some would argue the USA does not have a functioning left wing party.

Since the fall of the Berlin wall or even since Mitterrand most western countries lack a functioning left wing party. You can call Labour or the NDP or the SDP or the PS 'left wing' in comparison to their opponents -- but from a historical view they've dropped almost all the classic socialist positions.

In some ways the US has merely been the vanguard of a trend.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by oriol16 »

mikejb wrote: post #303
oriol16 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You have to be a liberal to dislike Trump? What the fuck is up with all this "you have to be in one of two buckets" mentality?

I inferred he self-describes as liberal based on the vulgar language.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

dmitrygr wrote: post #142
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #123

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After the Damore thing, Breitbart posted several anonymous interviews with conservative Googlers and Xooglers, so it seems like they've cultivated a group of contacts there. One of them specifically even discussed this exact TGIF and what it was like. I suspect one of those contacts leaked this to them as well.

Officially, the penalty for leaking is termination. I cannot imagine anyone who'd risk that.

I can -- leaks seem to be becoming the norm rather than the exception. The company has seemingly gotten too large for the remarkably open culture we had when I joined.

As a Canadian I don't have a strong opinion on the content of this video, though I remember the event. But I do have a strong opinion about leaks/leakers.

It's not that I want what we do to be 'secret' -- it's that I want an internal work culture that is open and I want to know what's going on across the company and have issues discussed out in the open.

Finally, no I am not surprised people leak even with risk of termination. There's lots of jobs in the valley for people to switch to.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by sehugg »

titzer wrote: post #289
justaaron wrote: post #271

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

Is this really the top rated comment? sigh , I think we can do better. > We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls... Oh man, here we go. Look, there are trolls and there are populists and fascists and neo-Nazis and anarchists and racists and scumbags and dickheads and all of those NAMES out there. Yeah! Fuck those NAMES ! BURN! ..it fixes nothing to piss further into the pool. And then to turn aroun…

Breitbart openly advocates for the destruction of the press, which they call the "Democrat-media complex". Hard to deal in good faith under those circumstances.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by nailer »

threeseed wrote: post #291
tkmo wrote: post #277

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Of course this thread is guaranteed to be an absolute shit show, but it's revealing the level of intense emotiveness shown by your post and the one before it, and most of all by the Google execs. Were this directed at a tiny ideological fraction of the population it could be OK, but we are talking about give or take half of the voters of the USA, UK, Poland, Hungary, Austria, etc., etc. And when Google has such a nea…

Not sure where you’re getting the numbers to back up your 50% claim. At most it is around 15% in UK, 30% in the US and somewhat higher in the Eastern European countries. Alt right conservatism is not a mainstream ideology anywhere in the world. Nor will it ever the way things are going.

'Alt right' is a vague term, and has been since Richard Spencer claimed it and regular conservative folk stopped using it.

Strong border controls are quite obviously supported by far more than 15% of the UK population (and I say that as an immigrant to the UK) - look at the Brexit vote.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by nailer »

threeseed wrote: post #298
tkmo wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In proper terms, perhaps, but things like Trump, Brexit, and strongly anti-immigrant, populist conservative, leaders like Salvini, Orban, etc., in Europe, are all generally placed in the same camp by the media. Ultimately we are discussing the visible rage and despisement towards the winnning side of a national US election vote. That is incredibly concerning coming from a company as powerful as Google, and we know th…

The concern around Trump extends to close to 70% of the electorate according to recent polling. It isn’t isolated. And given Trump’s anti-immigrant stance Google executives being immigrants themselves would have every right to voice their concern.

Google's executives are quite obviously not illegal immigrants. Pretending they're affected by tighter border controls is disingenuous.
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