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Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by oelmekki »

I can see this being seen as a turning point in the future, if Google loses influence.

Until now, every time people were saying "I won't use a new google product, I don't trust them to keep it running", they were quickly blamed by googlers who replied this team had nothing to do with that team, and that you could not blame google forever for having close greader on you. And it was reasonable to think greader was an accident and we could not hold grudge on everything from google because of it (not that google did not close other products, but they were not as popular and difficult to replace).

But now, it's not an exception anymore, and it comes in a time when firefox is gathering new strength, when duckduckgo results are getting competitively good, when purism is working on a true linux phone... Google has been so strong this start of century not only because they had outstanding products, but also because they had a loyal and passionate hardcore users base. I can't see them not losing that, in the future (time will tell, obviously).

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Post by Thlom »

jfaat wrote: post #221
samirm wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what's wrong with leaving emails unread?

For me, it’s because I can’t stand having meaningless ‘5,423’ badges littering the icons on my home screen.

Hm, but if you marked them as "done" in inbox they should have been archived in gmail and not show as "unread" on the app icon as that only shows unread in inbox? That's they way it works for me at least. I use inbox and gmail both as apps on my iPhone and in the browser. I've been archiving and marked e-mails as "done" without reading them for years and never had this problem.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by pluma »

riku_iki wrote: post #78
kenhwang wrote: post #3

Google's ADHD with products strikes again. It's really hard to get excited over new Google offerings because they just go away when Google gets bored of them, time and time again.

It's likely not google get bored, but users didn't adapt product on large enough scale.

The reason I didn't adopt Inbox (for Android) initially was that it only worked for GMail whereas the regular GMail client also worked with 3rd party mail accounts.

I was also extremely hesitant because of Google's history of canning experimental apps and Inbox simply isn't integral enough to be safe from the routine culling (unlike e.g. Chrome or Maps).

I was an early adopter for Wave (which ended up going nowhere because nobody I knew wanted to give it a try and I didn't have enough invites to hand them out without knowing people would use them). I tried to get on Orkut but never got an invite (until it had already basically become the "Facebook of South America"). I strongly believed in Google+ as a potential Facebook killer and used it early on. I was also an avid user of Reader in the Web 2.0 days.

At this point, I no longer trust new Google products. Google seems to really want me to use Duo, for example, but nobody I know is eager to use it and I won't talk my friends into using it if it's not clear that it's here to stay. I'm not committing to any Google product if I don't have reason to believe they won't pull the rug whenever they please.

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Post by Vinnl »

sammorrowdrums wrote: post #387
klandergren wrote: post #110

Inbox changed my relationship with email and it is unbelievably frustrating to hear it is being shuttered. I was a better digital person because of the app: I never forgot to reply, I kept years of ideas and small notes in reminders, and I could quickly triage and clear all incoming mail. These things in particular made Inbox stand out: * UI - simple, uncluttered mobile and desktop experience with uncomplicated keybo…

So many people say trips was the killer feature - but for me, that was just cool. Snoozing emails to inbox zero. That was my entire system. Do it now, or when am I most likely to be able to do it? Cognitive load is a real problem, why would anyone want to see an email that they can do nothing about, above one they can deal with now - and if you just put it in a folder... you have to check that yourself. That's ridicu…

Snoozing is already in Gmail :)

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Post by superice »

dingle_thunk wrote: post #318
deegles wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I wonder if I should collect a bunch of these... Off the top of my head, I've observed: - Resume Driven Development: wherein enterprise contractors and developers inject as many fad frameworks, architectures, and uncalled for features unnecessarily. - Vendor Driven Development: wherein the application architecture is tie to a cloud solutions billing model as much as possible. - Search Engine Driven Development: where…

Autocomplete Driven Development: when you don't know the language that well yet, but IDE-support is superb.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by pluma »

Buge wrote: post #374
cannonedhamster wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They bought Youtube and it served Ads. Calendar is part of Gmail. Groups is pretty much dead and hasn't been upgraded in years. Android and Chrome are part of Ads. Docs is probably the only new feature that they've developed, but people pay a good amount of money for it.

How is Chrome a part of ads? Docs was an acquisition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Docs,_Sheets,_and_Slide...

Chrome is analytics, not ads, but the two go hand in hand.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by blablabla123 »

I would have ended up using it if I hadn't left GMail for good now. All the privacy revelations and planet-scale data mining of private data of the past years has led me to the conclusion it's better to self-host in the long-term. (Ads based on my E-Mail conversations, Snowden, ...) At the moment I have a patch work solution based on different providers but at some point it'll all be on my own servers.

I kind of miss the crazy new features but the other stuff is developing at a faster pace then ever and gets unexpected features. Inbox is pretty cool, I can even use it when I'm completely drunk ;)

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by sammorrowdrums »

Vinnl wrote: post #394
sammorrowdrums wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So many people say trips was the killer feature - but for me, that was just cool. Snoozing emails to inbox zero. That was my entire system. Do it now, or when am I most likely to be able to do it? Cognitive load is a real problem, why would anyone want to see an email that they can do nothing about, above one they can deal with now - and if you just put it in a folder... you have to check that yourself. That's ridicu…

Snoozing is already in Gmail :)

Snoozing of emails is a good start, although it seems that I cannot snooze "tasks" only set a date, and to snooze a note in Keep and then not see it (to reduce cognitive load to only things I can action now) - requires setting a reminder and then archiving the note...

I don't get why people want to be able to see everything all the time - or have to check in different places. Showing the notes as items in google inbox was fantastic, as was hiding them when they are snoozed.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

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Post by ttty »

klandergren wrote: post #110

Inbox changed my relationship with email and it is unbelievably frustrating to hear it is being shuttered. I was a better digital person because of the app: I never forgot to reply, I kept years of ideas and small notes in reminders, and I could quickly triage and clear all incoming mail. These things in particular made Inbox stand out: * UI - simple, uncluttered mobile and desktop experience with uncomplicated keybo…

I used it for a few months, but was getting so slow I went back to gmail. Gmail is still slow...
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