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Hopefully competition from China will spark a re-investment in education elsewhere in the world.
Once the US stops prioritizing stuffing the coffers of rich donors and actually puts American interests first, things will dramatically improve.
Cheating and fraud are endemic to Chinese culture, getting one over on a sucker is just an expected part of daily life there. I would not downplay this.
[1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/101323...
> They document a rapid expansion between 2000 and 2016, as the Chinese share of global publications in physical sciences, engineering and math quadrupled. I really hate to risk being the guy who says "they will never best us," until they do, but in my field and many others Chinese papers are known to be of a lower quality standard and a lot more mill-like. This may come as a surprise to many, but the simple fact is…
Cheating and fraud are endemic to Chinese culture, getting one over on a sucker is just an expected part of daily life there. I would not downplay this.
Not all Chinese people that I've worked are like this. But the most cheating, backstabbing, manipulative coworkers I've had were all Chinese. From what I understand, in Chinese culture 'any means necessary' tactics are considered smart and fair game as long as they work.
Now consider how ridiculous it would be for me to conclude that in East Coast culture sociopathy is significantly more encouraged than elsewhere, and then think about how much larger the population and how much more diverse the cultures of China are compared to the East Coast. Your comment is silly.
Cheating and fraud are endemic to Chinese culture, getting one over on a sucker is just an expected part of daily life there. I would not downplay this.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17974802 and marked it off-topic.
> They document a rapid expansion between 2000 and 2016, as the Chinese share of global publications in physical sciences, engineering and math quadrupled. I really hate to risk being the guy who says "they will never best us," until they do, but in my field and many others Chinese papers are known to be of a lower quality standard and a lot more mill-like. This may come as a surprise to many, but the simple fact is…
Fraud is one thing. Continued experiments to learn are another.. even if applied in different domains. Take applied math. It can be written is a math journal, biology, chemistry, physics etc.. I would be suspect of clinical trials specifically but any preclinical work should be replicated. CS work is easy to replicate. So I think the specific threat of fraud is limited. Me too publications suggest learning but probab…
> They document a rapid expansion between 2000 and 2016, as the Chinese share of global publications in physical sciences, engineering and math quadrupled. I really hate to risk being the guy who says "they will never best us," until they do, but in my field and many others Chinese papers are known to be of a lower quality standard and a lot more mill-like. This may come as a surprise to many, but the simple fact is…
Gatekeeper alert
I think the US and Europe should slam the (academic) doors shut; no more collaboration until the Chinese government learns some basic humanity. The strategy of influencing the Chinese by educating their elite has not worked. Clearly.
The quality debate about scientific merit aside, if the U.S. wants to remain "the best", then we need to incentivize the best scientists and researchers in other countries to come here and become U.S. citizens. A lot of famous physicists, mathematicians, and logicians have done this over the past 100 years. Unfortunately, the attractiveness of becoming a U.S. citizen is waning because (1) current U.S. policies on sci…
To U.S. researchers also - the proposal funding rate is so low on account of the resource/PI ratio that many U.S. researchers are moving to Europe where there is greater promise of hard funding.