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Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#181
This may be a case of following the data with disregard to the dynamics.

1. In the beginning there was G Mail and there where two camps(roughly):

  a. Those who made heavy use of e-mail, and where "adapted" to the user interface.

  b. Those who had problems with the UI(replying to all their emails, etc...)
Of those two camps: those in camp `a` where unlikely to switch. That would have interfered with their workflow.

Those in camp `b`, not all switched because people resist change. Change takes energy.

2. Then there was `Inbox`

Now, there is a subset of camp `b` which has adapted its workflow to use Inbox. The most satisfied ones are here complaining :).

They don't want to go back to G mail, but will be forced to.

The questions I would ask, if I were responsible for shutting down Inbox, are:

* How many people were leaving inbox for G mail? * Why?

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#182
post #11

If you had to do with tons of email Inbox seem like it would be great. However it just got in the way when you only had to deal a few emails a day.

I went from 10000+ unread emails to inbox-zero. I honestly don’t think I could have taken the leap without Inbox. True, I don’t need the bundling feature as much any more, but I’m sad the product is going away.

YES. it doesn't matter if you CAN possibly recreate some of the functionality in gmail. it matters if the app guides you to your preferred workflow. Inbox made it easier to keep inbox zero than not. Thats the difference.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#183
post #3

Google's ADHD with products strikes again. It's really hard to get excited over new Google offerings because they just go away when Google gets bored of them, time and time again.

It's likely not google get bored, but users didn't adapt product on large enough scale.

> users didn't adapt product on large enough scale

Because users know it wont be a product that gets any updates and will be shutdown in 2 years.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#184

Everyone suspected it for a while. Their active Twitter account refused for months to say when the app would be updated for the iPhone X. Personally, I suspect that they painted themselves into a bit of a corner with the tech stack they choose for Inbox. They used a unique C++ to JS compiler to run Inbox in the browser. This worked decently well in Chrome, but the experience in other browsers has been a lot choppier.…

There was no C++ to JS compiler used, it was Java compiled to Closure Compiler (J2CL) and Java compiles to Objective-C (j2objc)

However only business logic is transpiled, the UI layer on every platform is written by hand in the native impedance matched language of the platform.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#185
This is really unfortunate. Inbox's primary differentiator was never in any one individual feature like Snooze or Smart Reply. No, the real value of Inbox was that its design was built around a fundamentally different philosophy on what email is and how it should be managed.

Gmail takes a traditional approach to email management. Messages come in, you read them, maybe organize them with labels, then archive them, delete them, or just leave them in your inbox forever. It doesn't really make any assumptions about your workflow, it just gives you a bunch of fairly standard email client features and leaves it up to you how you use them.

Inbox on the other hand is very opinionated. It was designed around the idea that your inbox is a to-do list, and everything from the UI to features like pinning, snooze, and reminders is built around that assumption. Emails come in and get sorted into categories, then you go through that list triage them, marking emails that require no action as done, pinning the ones you want to deal with soon, and snoozing the ones you want to come back to later. You can even attach reminders to emails so you don't forget what task they represent. When you're done you hit the sweep button and everything that isn't pinned or snoozed gets wiped clean.

As a result of this workflow, emails you've already dealt with are hidden away in the "done" folder, leaving only emails in your inbox which represent reminders or tasks you have yet to complete. You can even add custom reminders to Inbox which aren't tied to any specific email. Basically it turns your inbox into a to-do list.

I'm saddened to see Inbox go. Gmail doesn't really capture this workflow with quite the same level of elegance Inbox does; it just wasn't designed to work that way. I suspect that long after Inbox is gone I'll still find myself using the workflow it taught me; treating my inbox like a to-do list even when the client I use is no longer built around that workflow.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#186

It's really interesting to see the super-knee jerk reaction here when the article itself even says that most of the features made their way into gmail. (I was a heavy inbox user, and i am happy with the stuff that made it's way into gmail). Outside of some of the bundling features, i'm curious what actual difference people are complaining about here.

Unread counts. They make me anxious. I have Inbox only show emails sent to me. Everything else gets bundled and up at 8AM. Inbox doesn't show unread counts anywhere. I don't have to feel like I'm constantly behind.

I think the important point for me is not like "This is a nice to have" or "I don't like extra clicking" it's "This affects my actual health." Literally, it's my health. Not doing this makes people who have mental illnesses like anxiety more unwell.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#187
This really bums me out. I’ve been using inbox all-in since the start and have loved it since day one. Switching back to gmail is going to be a real challenge as I prefer the way it organizes my email.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#188
post #3

Google's ADHD with products strikes again. It's really hard to get excited over new Google offerings because they just go away when Google gets bored of them, time and time again.

It's likely not google get bored, but users didn't adapt product on large enough scale.

I liked Inbox but didn't want to use it because I expected it to get discontinued.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#189
post #157

I don't mean to throw out the same old "you can't get attached to Google products because they kill them at any time" thing, but holy shit, this one feels like a real kick in the balls. Email is one of my most important workflows and I've spent a great deal of time over the past few years attaching myself to the zero inbox mindset through the bundles feature and having my reminders as first class citizens in the inbo…

I'm not too familiar with it; how is this different from setting a "skip the inbox" filter?

Bundles don't skip the inbox; that's the point. Stuff in your inbox is stuff you haven't had a chance to deal with yet; prematurely moving emails out of your inbox that you haven't had a chance to look at would break that workflow.

Re: Google is discontinuing Inbox

#190

This may be a case of following the data with disregard to the dynamics. 1. In the beginning there was G Mail and there where two camps(roughly): a. Those who made heavy use of e-mail, and where "adapted" to the user interface. b. Those who had problems with the UI(replying to all their emails, etc...) Of those two camps: those in camp `a` where unlikely to switch. That would have interfered with their workflow. Thos…

Also gmail is the default android app but I'd guess they have consider that.
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