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Post by macintux »

Shivetya wrote: post #155
dv_dt wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if that ECG feature might change the market perception of the device - maybe that was the intent. With the ECG and slip and fall detection, I sort of thought it makes the Apple Watch sound like the most consumer medical alert bracelet ever. For people with aging parents that don't really use mobile phones, I could many watches purchased as safety devices. (Though the battery life doesn't make it ideal for th…

I am interested in the idea of having one and using it on multiple members of the family, can it differentiate among a number of users? That would be a nice feature. Kind of how you personalize a car for multiple drivers.

No, it's very much a single-user device, still tied to an iPhone.

Fall detection, heart rate abnormality detection, wouldn't seem to be the type of things you'd want to only use for a short time each day anyway. You could presumably use the ECG feature on multiple people, however.

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Post by topbanana »

tfandango wrote: post #203
oh_hello wrote: post #193

I'm amazed by the sizing. The SE appears to be gone. This means the smallest device you can buy is the 7/8. Many still find this to be too large. Considering Apple's history of selling older iPhone models at a lower price, it seems like two years from now the bottom of the line will be the Xs and Xr announced today. The smallest lower-end iPhone available at that time would be the Xs which is larger than the 6/6s/7/8…

I have some younger kids who have the SE models, I like them because they are cheap(er), they work in the apple ecosystem I have, they are small enough for kids to carry around w/o breaking them, and I can easily track everyone. I won't be buying them any of these new ones, either stick to older SEs or purchase cheaper androids for them now.

Much the same story here. Was hoping for an SE 2 for my kids as they're moving up to secondary school and hoped they could keep their iPad game progress. Android ahoy

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Post by Moter8 »

samstave wrote: post #144
asaph wrote: post #63

Just announced: Apple now runs on 100% renewable energy.

They said all of their facilities, worldwide... Are apple stores considered a "facility"? Because, I cant see how the apple store in the Valley Fair Mall can get its own apple-power feed?

The claim "running on renewable energy" is false.

See for example:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/10/apple-caught-fibbing-...

https://www.fastcompany.com/40554151/how-apple-got-to-100-re...

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/9/17216656/apple-renewable-e...

(unordered list of sources)

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Post by 21 »

oh_hello wrote: post #193

I'm amazed by the sizing. The SE appears to be gone. This means the smallest device you can buy is the 7/8. Many still find this to be too large. Considering Apple's history of selling older iPhone models at a lower price, it seems like two years from now the bottom of the line will be the Xs and Xr announced today. The smallest lower-end iPhone available at that time would be the Xs which is larger than the 6/6s/7/8…

The market has spoken loud and clear since 2010, when Androids bigger than iPhone became popular. iPhone dragged it's feet till 2013/2014 because they didn't want to appear conceding that they were wrong, but eventually they had to buckle.

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Post by endemic »

smitherfield wrote: post #131
slg wrote: post #101

It is interesting that Apple will now sell 7 distinct phone models. Throw in the different capacities and carriers and you have a few dozen different SKUs. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a notable deviation from their early approach to the iPhone.

When the original iPhone launched there was no other product like it; nowadays they need to be able to compete with Android on price.

Compete on price? They're getting more and more expensive...

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Post by mthoms »

samstave wrote: post #128
slg wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling your $1100+ phone the iPhone Excess Max is a great way to get every talk show to discuss an update that appears to be little more than an incremental speed bump.

Is it just me, or was there not a very specific arab overtone to the marketing in the videos on this announcement: In the sand, the desert, the oasis village, the gold... They must really want every Saudi to overspend on the 512gb S Max gold++++

I think it's just because it fits with their other current brand - MacOS Mojave.

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Post by oh_hello »

plantain wrote: post #66

The showmanship really feels like it's run out. Even when it was the post-Jobs Ive and Cook it was still captivating, but this is just tiresome.

This presentation gave the this feeling more than any other I can remember. However, thinking about it now I realize this is a relatively minor event compared to many or most in the past. This was a year of an "s" iPhone model with minor spec bumps, a new lower-end model, and an updated watch with a design that is not radically different. You really can't compare this with unveilings of technological leaps or massively new products.

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Post by macintux »

mereel wrote: post #72
sho wrote: post #40

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> it is a novelty I'm sure those millions of people who have hospital-grade ECG machines at home have no need for this toy, but for those few who don't, it sounds like an absolute game-changer that could really save lives. The best medical device, like the best camera, is the one you actually have with you when you need it - and as someone who has occasionally worried about what feels like a weird heartbeat, I'll be…

You're right -- I thinking more of a clinical context, which is definitely the wrong frame for this. From what I've read online, it only seems to detect AFib, which is obviously useful since I think it's the most common abnormal rhythm. Maybe it's only able to detect AFib since it's just on the wearer's wrist? I wonder if there are plans to make little wireless sensors pads to mimic having more leads. That'd be prett…

AFib detection is, IIRC, available even without an explicit ECG session.

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Post by ppeetteerr »

tfandango wrote: post #203
oh_hello wrote: post #193

I'm amazed by the sizing. The SE appears to be gone. This means the smallest device you can buy is the 7/8. Many still find this to be too large. Considering Apple's history of selling older iPhone models at a lower price, it seems like two years from now the bottom of the line will be the Xs and Xr announced today. The smallest lower-end iPhone available at that time would be the Xs which is larger than the 6/6s/7/8…

I have some younger kids who have the SE models, I like them because they are cheap(er), they work in the apple ecosystem I have, they are small enough for kids to carry around w/o breaking them, and I can easily track everyone. I won't be buying them any of these new ones, either stick to older SEs or purchase cheaper androids for them now.

Aren't the new 7's near the same price as the old SE's? You also get something cool with the 7, no breakable home button :)

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Post by macintux »

waterphone wrote: post #79
badloginagain wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would expect seniors to be a sizable portion of Apple Watches. Being FDA approved for tracking health would be a huge draw for this audience. Watch Apple implement a subscription service to call emergency contacts in the event of a health event detected by the Watch.

It does this by default without a subscription service in the event of a detected fall if you do not respond to an alert within a certain amount of time. Hope nobody falls on their watch and are uninjured but break the touch sensor, preventing them from being able to cancel the 911 call…

It only calls 911 if it detects no movement after a fall, so it would have to be the motion sensors in the device that completely fail, not a touch sensor.
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