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FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by synotna »

kumarvvr wrote: post #39
tangue wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's embarrassing to say but in my company, I'm still "the webmaster". And by reading your question I conclude that it's because no one has any idea about what I'm doing.

It's too grandiose a term honestly. And it does not really convey the role the role-holder does. It's a really confusing term. I guess the term came around when the web was still young and was used as a precursor to "guru".

What would you user today for someone that takes care of a simple WordPress install or static site?

I think web developer or software engineer is too much, and web editor is too little

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by marsrover »

I never had the privilege of using Frontpage. I had the program and some books but I felt like good ole notepad was good enough for me, so I never even tried it out.

My mind was blown when I realized I could have different colors on my syntax and people actually indented things.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by linsomniac »

pjc50 wrote: post #17

Oh god, the horror. Not just the ugly webpages, those were the ubiquitous style at the time. No, FrontPage pioneered deep ugliness, because like all Microsoft products of the 90s it regarded interoperability as a threat. It produces ugly HTML that works best in IE, and it has an optional upload mechanism that requires IIS on the server side. https://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/website/frontpage/th...

Didn't require IIS, you could run it on a Linux box with Apache. It would remind you at every step that you were a second class citizen and that you really should be running IIS, but you could do it.

Those Cobalt RaQ and Qube boxes came with that support baked in, which was a nice feature until Cobalt died and we had to replicate the functionality on straight Linux boxes.

It wasn't hard, it's just that a little part of me died in side every time I had to do it.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by contras1970 »

ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #128
gattilorenz wrote: post #28

The whole domain is amazing. Just look at this page, updated LAST YEAR: http://www.telecommanderhosting.com/ec/framed_Microsoft_OS.h... Look at the waving Win 95 logo! Not to mention the "office clipart guy" in the homepage... I am just suprised that the obligatory "under construction" gif is missing!

Don't worry, Ling's Cars will make sure you get your full fix of Geocities design. https://www.lingscars.com/

see the comment on lines 29-170!

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by bitwize »

Good old GruntPage. Yet another technology I let pass by me as it grew to dominance and then faded--I much preferred to work in Emacs, hand-crufting HTML directly, and I never felt unproductive, especially when I used Scheme scripts (outside Emacs) to generate lots of similar pages.

Given the tangle of unreadable, unmaintainable IE-specific garbage that FrontPage produced, I'd say I came out on top overall.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by Atheros »

elliotpage wrote: post #108
benibela wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Born in 89, I made a webpage for my mother at that time. She still likes it :/ Check the generator tag on the frameset page http://www.roswithavanderzander.de/index_EN.htm

This page is great. It loads instantly, shows you the content up front, has clear navigation, and has clear contrast between elements. Also, it has frames, which I honestly miss even though I am glad we have moved past them.

Why did and does everyone hate frames so much? Do they not have their place even on modern sites sometimes? (Even if they aren't technically frames?) The top bar of Google Docs is a visual frame and it seems appropriate to me.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Post by Adutude »

Elegant and Exquisite, Hoo Hoo, Hee Hee, Gufaw!! I was running an ISP at that time. This caused me no end of headaches in getting the FrontPage extensions working on various and sundry web servers. It allowed people to easily create websites, but caused a nightmare of support and infrastructure issues just to keep it working. So glad this piece of tech faded into infamy.
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