Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age • Hacker News Board

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by YinglingLight » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:42 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #133

matwood wrote: post #33

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Most people have no idea I'm 41, and instead think I'm in my 30s. Balding and grey hair show I'm not in my 20s ;) My 'secret' is I workout every single day . I might do heavy weight training, sled pushing, surfing, or a spin class. It doesn't matter as long as I do something physically challenging. I also follow an 80/20 rule on eating paleo-ish. Mainly I try to avoid processed foods, but I'll still eat a pizza or go…

Counterpoint: my wife and I are well into our 40s yet often mistaken for being much younger. Being significantly overweight gives us nice smooth wrinkle free skin.

You're guaranteed to look younger if you lose weight. Source: the waistline of middle-aged people in your office

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by tpetry » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:42 PM UTC

mr_overalls wrote: post #120

rohunati wrote: post #42

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Curious about your breakdown between heavy lifting vs. cardio. I find that I can't do more than 4x/week of heavy lifting, so I've been trying to run (or something else) on the remaining 3 days.

How many grams of protein do you consume? Trying to eat the recommended amount (0.5 - 1.0 g / lb-bodyweight) seems like a lot of effort at first, but has amazing effects on recovery, especially for resistance exercise.

This formula is meant for fat-free body weight which most people forget to tell.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by YinglingLight » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

jugg1es wrote: post #147

kevinconaway wrote: post #137

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Do you have children? I used to run or cycle at least 5 days a week but since my daughter was born (and stopped being an infant) it is a struggle to keep a regular exercise regimen. I try to run with her in a jogging stroller when I can but this is much more susceptible to foul weather than when I could just adjust my own clothing.

Kids make exercise during the week a struggle.

If I had kids I don't think I could afford losing the energy boost exercise gives me, for their sake.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by madeuptempacct » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

cgh wrote: post #148

madeuptempacct wrote: post #82

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I am eating 90 grams of protein @ 190 lbs body-weight with a pretty low fat %.

Way too low. Try doubling it (not kidding). If you’re worried about calories, reduce your carbs.

Everything I read says .5 - .75g protein / lb of bodyweight for lifters. Maybe I will do more research.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by madeuptempacct » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:45 PM UTC

Moto7451 wrote: post #141

madeuptempacct wrote: post #82

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I am eating 90 grams of protein @ 190 lbs body-weight with a pretty low fat %.

More anecdata: I aim for 125g per day, 1800 calory target, at 138 lbs/5’ 5” and can lift strong every day. I usually take a “rest” week (calisthenics and 3-7 miles of walking) every other month when I travel somewhere.

That seems crazy high to me, but maybe I am just too used to my own thing and should try upping it.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by strls » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:46 PM UTC

chillingeffect wrote: post #112

madeuptempacct wrote: post #20

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I keep seeing this on HackerNews - everyone seems to convinced that keto, intermittent fasting, and fasting are the new holy grail, I am unconvinced. I am convinced in the good old "enough sleep and cardio" theory though, since both have known working mechanisms (incread blood flow and debris clean up during sleep).

why are you unconvinced about fasting? have you tried researching and reading the scientific articles about fasting and the other topics. If you're thinking in terms of "holy grail," you may be subjecting yourself to an "all or nothing" fallacy. Generally, we're discovering how to lead our bodies through the healthy operating conditions which kept our ancestors alive as we navigate a modern world of high-tech capabil…

Are there any studies on positive effects of fasting which control for caloric restriction / weight loss?

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by fcuck_actuarial » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:46 PM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #123

It's too bad that we somehow decided that steroids are immoral and need to be regulated to the point that they're essentially banned. Anabolic steroids, when provided in correct dosages and under the care of a physician, are quite safe and solve this exact problem.

What really bothers me is that youtube and instagram are full or lifting/exercise guru that presume to give people useful advice(and frequently sell things).

Except most/all of these people that claim they are natural actually take steroids. Steroids are such a force multiplier - they will completely overpower mediocre diet and training. A natural lifter could do everything perfectly and still fall far behind the results of these so called experts.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by gowld » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:46 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #133

matwood wrote: post #33

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Most people have no idea I'm 41, and instead think I'm in my 30s. Balding and grey hair show I'm not in my 20s ;) My 'secret' is I workout every single day . I might do heavy weight training, sled pushing, surfing, or a spin class. It doesn't matter as long as I do something physically challenging. I also follow an 80/20 rule on eating paleo-ish. Mainly I try to avoid processed foods, but I'll still eat a pizza or go…

Counterpoint: my wife and I are well into our 40s yet often mistaken for being much younger. Being significantly overweight gives us nice smooth wrinkle free skin.

Really? I'd guess "wrinkles" would be more determined by sun damage, or the sort of flappiness body-mass loss that happens after >60yrs, or people who yo-yoed weight.

Maybe people who exercise tend to get more sun damage...

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by 131012 » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:46 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #129

maxxxxx wrote: post #87

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If you just do some exercise regularly and eat halfways right you are already way ahead of 90% of the population . It always amazes me to learn that a lot of people do absolutely nothing.

Exactly. This is why I do it everyday - it becomes a habit. I wake up and work out. No different than brushing my teeth.

You do that on empty stomach? Serious question, it's my main difficulty with morning workout.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by YinglingLight » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 3:46 PM UTC

jmull wrote: post #153

henryw wrote: post #130

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Training 4-5x a week is within your control. Winning the lottery is not. I get up every weekday morning at 5 to 6am to do a spin or group fitness class and lift 1 to 2 times per week Arnold superset style. I'm loving this lifestyle. (I guess the gym being Equinox helps.)

> Training 4-5x a week is within your control. That may not be true for a large proportion of people in their 80s.

Those in their 80s have nothing but free time. Of course they won't have the energy to train 4-5x a week if they have been sedentary the last half of their life.