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Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

chillingeffect wrote: post #127
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #106

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Do you have a pad for under your desk? I find that I can't just stand all day without getting stiff either.

I didn't have one and yes it took a few weeks of building up to being able to stand all day, so I would take sitting breaks for 1-2 hours. From what I understand, it's actually better to have a mix than to stand only. But yes, now that you remind me, I will get a pad! Thank you.

> From what I understand, it's actually better to have a mix than to stand only.

Yeah, we like to think that standing is something new, but cashiers have done it for years, and, having spent time as one in my youth, I can tell you that there is a lot of discomfort during the work week. I'd really recommend sitting and standing.

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Post by CositaS »

hsnewman wrote: post #36
zaroth wrote: post #8

Ctrl-F Testosterone - was disappoint. For approximately half of the population, supplementing testosterone into old age is a great way to maintain (and build) SMM along with that physical activity which TFA admonishes the lack of.

Coming from a family history of prostrate cancer, I would never consider testosterone replacement therapy.

Prostrate cancer? don't take it lying down.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

matwood wrote: post #33
lysp wrote: post #14

I always like to show this picture as an example. https://i.imgur.com/ZcDedfo.jpg I don't have an original source but it shows a MRI leg scan comparison between a 40yo triathlete, a sedentary 70yo and a 70yo triathlete. The picture tells the story...

Most people have no idea I'm 41, and instead think I'm in my 30s. Balding and grey hair show I'm not in my 20s ;) My 'secret' is I workout every single day . I might do heavy weight training, sled pushing, surfing, or a spin class. It doesn't matter as long as I do something physically challenging. I also follow an 80/20 rule on eating paleo-ish. Mainly I try to avoid processed foods, but I'll still eat a pizza or go…

Counterpoint: my wife and I are well into our 40s yet often mistaken for being much younger. Being significantly overweight gives us nice smooth wrinkle free skin.

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Post by matwood »

gadders wrote: post #121
matwood wrote: post #108

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Recovery is a thing, but I find most of us non-athletes as a job can do way more than we think. I lift heavy 3-4 times/week. Cardio 2-3 days/week. Sometimes I might lift heavy at 6am and then do cardio at 6pm depending on my schedule. If I show up at the gym and really feel lacking, I do a different muscle group. If I show up to the gym and I'm supposed to do bench, but I'm hurting - squat instead. Squats struggling?…

I think you need to factor age in as well. Recovery is a lot easier in your 20's.

I'm in my 40s. Too often people use a 'recovery day' to just skip the gym. Life throws enough curve balls, that few of us need a scheduled recovery day.

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Post by close04 »

chillingeffect wrote: post #98
hokkos wrote: post #72

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Dr Greger and its undisclosed vegan agenda using cherry picked or wrongly interpreted studies to push it.

Would you consider adding to the discussion by presenting meta-studies showing meat is not carcinogenic?

That's not how things work. A study can only prove something was not carcinogenic during the study. It cannot prove it's not carcinogenic [period]. The other way around works: if a study shows something was carcinogenic during the study, it proved it's carcinogenic [period]. All of this assumes properly conducted studies.

On the other hand studies proved UV rays are carcinogenic [0]. Assuming knowing meat is carcinogenic turns you into a vegetarian let me know how you'd approach getting out of the house from now on.

[0] https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/radiation-exposu...

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Post by polskibus »

pixelperfect wrote: post #28
madeuptempacct wrote: post #3

More interested in preventing this: http://social-quotient.info/sq.4mg.com/brainpower.gif Much less clear on how accomplish that. Edit: To elaborate, I know exactly what I need to do to stay physically fit into old age and how to monitor my physical fitness - I know immediately when I get winded more from my regular run, my lift numbers drop, or I can't reach my toes. The scary part is if I stop working out for more…

There is a lot of evidence that cognitive decline is greater in people with insulin resistance. Eating a relatively low sugar/carb diet that doesn't cause blood sugar to spike is probably a good idea.

Could you provide some references? I'd love to read more about it.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by kevinconaway »

matwood wrote: post #33
lysp wrote: post #14

I always like to show this picture as an example. https://i.imgur.com/ZcDedfo.jpg I don't have an original source but it shows a MRI leg scan comparison between a 40yo triathlete, a sedentary 70yo and a 70yo triathlete. The picture tells the story...

Most people have no idea I'm 41, and instead think I'm in my 30s. Balding and grey hair show I'm not in my 20s ;) My 'secret' is I workout every single day . I might do heavy weight training, sled pushing, surfing, or a spin class. It doesn't matter as long as I do something physically challenging. I also follow an 80/20 rule on eating paleo-ish. Mainly I try to avoid processed foods, but I'll still eat a pizza or go…

Do you have children?

I used to run or cycle at least 5 days a week but since my daughter was born (and stopped being an infant) it is a struggle to keep a regular exercise regimen.

I try to run with her in a jogging stroller when I can but this is much more susceptible to foul weather than when I could just adjust my own clothing.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by dataker »

I'd also like to mention the use of hormonal replacement technologies (as TRT and HGH) that can absolutely help the elderly.

We have terrible stereotypes around testosterone because of steroid abuse in athletes, but reality paints itself very differently.

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/this-103yearold-bodybu...

My grandmother underwent medical treatment using Deca Durabolin, a well-known anabolic steroid, and she could walk again after a long time spent in beds and, at best, chairs.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by dagoat »

st26 wrote: post #89
lemming wrote: post #60

I've been investigating recommended protein intake recently and counting calories to lose some weight, and it's amazing how little protein most people get compared to what is now recommended. Here's examine.com on the recommended amounts: https://examine.com/nutrition/how-much-protein-do-you-need/ . I'm of fairly healthy weight, active and have been losing some weight, so I should be getting 2.2-3.3 g/kg according to…

1.5g/lb (3.3g/kg) is considered by many in the weight training communities to be way overkill, and potentially hard on your kidneys.

> potentially hard on your kidneys

Is there data for that?

IIRC, for healthy kidneys this amount should not be an issue, slightly more per lb shouldn't be either.

I'm not sure what weight training communities you refer to, but in bodybuilding and strength circles amounts that high and higher aren't often considered "way overkill".

Anywhere between 0.75-1.25g/lb is where I shoot for, depending on my goals. But I have gone higher than 2g/lb for extended periods of time in the past

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by nordsieck »

jmulho wrote: post #124
hokkos wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dr Greger and its undisclosed vegan agenda using cherry picked or wrongly interpreted studies to push it.

It doesn't matter which cherry you pick, they all lead to the same conclusion: eating too many animals and not enough plants causes our most common diseases (obesity, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, stroke). Dr. Greger's agenda is not about the animals, it is about the people.

> eating too many animals and not enough plants causes our most common diseases (obesity, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, stroke)

Do you actually believe that eating "too many animals and not enough plants" is the cause of diabetes (I assume you're referring to Type II)?

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