Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age • Hacker News Board

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by SnowingXIV » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:27 PM UTC

zaroth wrote: post #8

Ctrl-F Testosterone - was disappoint. For approximately half of the population, supplementing testosterone into old age is a great way to maintain (and build) SMM along with that physical activity which TFA admonishes the lack of.

I was too, basically the article is saying to lift. Which I do agree with but if you're suggesting TRT (testosterone replacement therapy), something that has definitely become popular and is being advertised heavily - I'd caution that it's not for everyone and there have been plenty of lawsuits filed already and problems allegedly associated with it. I guess like everything, check with your doctor which the article does suggest. At least 9 products have been named in the litigation. Fortestam, AndroGel, Axiron, Androderm, etc.

One of the many lawyers working on these cases: https://outline.com/YEpTGg

The MDL source: http://www.ilnd.uscourts.gov/mdl-details.aspx?UGlDS1bLxpRHyf...

You do have to wonder about guys like Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is 71 (ridiculous) and is in better shape than most. I can't imagine how much work he has to put into to keeping that up. Supplements can only do so much.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:27 PM UTC

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Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by maxxxxx » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:28 PM UTC

lysp wrote: post #14

I always like to show this picture as an example. https://i.imgur.com/ZcDedfo.jpg I don't have an original source but it shows a MRI leg scan comparison between a 40yo triathlete, a sedentary 70yo and a 70yo triathlete. The picture tells the story...

That's a good one. Amazing how little muscle the sedentary person has.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by christophilus » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:29 PM UTC

lysp wrote: post #14

I always like to show this picture as an example. https://i.imgur.com/ZcDedfo.jpg I don't have an original source but it shows a MRI leg scan comparison between a 40yo triathlete, a sedentary 70yo and a 70yo triathlete. The picture tells the story...

Yeesh. That's a great visual. I'm a sedentary software engineer... gotta make some changes. It reminds me of the cancer slides in the "How Not to Die" talk https://youtu.be/7rNY7xKyGCQ?t=780 which is partly why I'm now vegan.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by Balero » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:33 PM UTC

madeuptempacct wrote: post #20

morsma wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Low carb and periodic water fasting (autophagy), and you should be set old age.

I keep seeing this on HackerNews - everyone seems to convinced that keto, intermittent fasting, and fasting are the new holy grail, I am unconvinced. I am convinced in the good old "enough sleep and cardio" theory though, since both have known working mechanisms (incread blood flow and debris clean up during sleep).

I don't know if you are purely talking about mental health. But I would add in some resistance training, for bone health amongst other things.

"enough sleep, cardio and some resistance exercise"

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by Numberwang » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:33 PM UTC

lysp wrote: post #14

I always like to show this picture as an example. https://i.imgur.com/ZcDedfo.jpg I don't have an original source but it shows a MRI leg scan comparison between a 40yo triathlete, a sedentary 70yo and a 70yo triathlete. The picture tells the story...

The patterns on the 40 and 70 year old triathlete match far too well. I'm calling bullshit. The "70 year old triathlete" scan is just further up the leg of the 40 year old.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by ausjke » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:35 PM UTC

Just do this 7 minutes a day without any tools you will be fine: https://7-min.com/, at least it is a good start.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by pixelperfect » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:40 PM UTC

madeuptempacct wrote: post #3

More interested in preventing this: http://social-quotient.info/sq.4mg.com/brainpower.gif Much less clear on how accomplish that. Edit: To elaborate, I know exactly what I need to do to stay physically fit into old age and how to monitor my physical fitness - I know immediately when I get winded more from my regular run, my lift numbers drop, or I can't reach my toes. The scary part is if I stop working out for more…

There is a lot of evidence that cognitive decline is greater in people with insulin resistance. Eating a relatively low sugar/carb diet that doesn't cause blood sugar to spike is probably a good idea.

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by rerx » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:41 PM UTC

lysp wrote: post #14

I always like to show this picture as an example. https://i.imgur.com/ZcDedfo.jpg I don't have an original source but it shows a MRI leg scan comparison between a 40yo triathlete, a sedentary 70yo and a 70yo triathlete. The picture tells the story...

The picture is taken from this study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3810/psm.2011.09.1933 (use Sci-Hub if you do not belong to an institution paying for access)

Re: Preventing Muscle Loss as We Age

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Post by SketchySeaBeast » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:42 PM UTC

rthomas6 wrote: post #19

Weight training into old age does much more than prevent muscle loss! It also prevents osteoporosis and increases bone density, decreases likelihood of falls, and might even prevent cognitive decline. Basically it prevents you from slowly withering away as you die. Instead you are pretty normal, then one day you die. It doesn't make you live longer, but it can give you a lot more quality years.

Not only are you less likely to die of a heart attack, diabetes, or a broken hip, you're also more likely to be still doing the things you love when you do pass away. It's a win win really.