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FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Frontpage came with the all the usual Office software in the bundle which meant that it was often found on most internet cafes PCs. I spent a year backpacking in 2000 and used Frontpage in those cafes to edit and update my travel website. I kept most of it on a floppy disk, and also used FTP. The internet cafes often had scanners too, so I was able to scan a selection of developed print photos to include in the site there.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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post #95

You can say what you want but these were great times! Everyone could make their own little ugly homepage and it was exciting. People didn't really judge each other or bragged about how this tech is better than that. I kinda miss it.

I made some groovy table-based sites by setting up the table layout with the FrontPage GUI and then editing the raw HTML it generated. It taught me HTML and opened the doors to web development for me. Same story using Visual Basic and my segway into programming.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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> because like all Microsoft products of the 90s it regarded interoperability as a threat. It produces ugly HTML that works best in IE Just like nowadays with chrome!

Can you give some examples?

Since an update to vector-based mapping, Google Maps performance and stability is pretty bad on anything except Chrome.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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post #51

Are there good free (as is free software) WYSIWYG website editors nowadays?

I was looking for that a while back, too, and a Wikipedia search led me to BlueGriffon (http://bluegriffon.org/), which (through various forks like Nvu etc.) was apparently originally based on the "Composer" part of Netscape / Mozilla.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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I read quite a bit of this but couldn't figure it out: is this writer sort of mocking their own purple prose in a sort of self-consciously over-the-top way? Or is that just their writing style? (It's hard to imagine anyone reading this style seriously. Even the subtitle, "elegant and exquisite" is a weird way to talk about software.) Do you think they're making fun of something?

It took me until he started showing the themes to realize it was a joke, but after that it becomes a bit more evident.

> My resume page is pretty good on wait time -- 14 seconds and that includes a graphic in addition to a massive HTML file!

Ah, those were the times...

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Oh man, I had a similar experience around 2000. I built a Danish website about Goldeneye 64 in FrontPage. The first website I ever made. It used frames, but I feel it was quite pleasing on the eyes, because I avoided a lot of the 'fancy effects' that was common for the time. I'll admit, being born in 87, most of the site was simply copied from other websites about the game, and translated to Danish. So it was a decen…

Born in 89, I made a webpage for my mother at that time. She still likes it :/ Check the generator tag on the frameset page http://www.roswithavanderzander.de/index_EN.htm

This page is great. It loads instantly, shows you the content up front, has clear navigation, and has clear contrast between elements.

Also, it has frames, which I honestly miss even though I am glad we have moved past them.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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Oh god, the horror. Not just the ugly webpages, those were the ubiquitous style at the time. No, FrontPage pioneered deep ugliness, because like all Microsoft products of the 90s it regarded interoperability as a threat. It produces ugly HTML that works best in IE, and it has an optional upload mechanism that requires IIS on the server side. https://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/website/frontpage/th...

I love how they laid it on the line. “If you want to do web development, you need to actually learn web technology” Now if someone would tell web developers that if you want to write desktop/mobile apps, you need to learn native frameworks..... What are newer FrontPage alternatives? The Internet and the web have changed drastically since the days when FrontPage was a very common website editor. Almost every modern we…

Many, many "drag and drop" web based alternatives. Webflow,ukit, even Adobe edge on the desktop.

Re: FrontPage 98: Elegant and Exquisite (1997)

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post #59

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Made a Pokemon fan site, must have been 9 or something, I didn't know how to link to other pages, so everything was one page and links worked via anchors...

I attempted to make a pokemon battle system in front page by linking pages and hard coding each action.

Oh man, me too. I couldn’t figure out anything about dynamic web pages except that I needed a host with “cgi-bin support”. I wanted to build a Neopets alternative, and when I couldn’t figure out how to do anything dynamic, I figured I could just build out a new page for every combination of variables that could change.

I was like, 7, so my math skills didn’t really allow me to understand the scope of the number of pages that would be required.

But god damn if I didn’t have a blast trying.

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