Article fails to make a point. Jobs are the solution to poverty, hands down.
Americans Want to Believe Jobs Are the Solution to Poverty. They’re Not
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#12Article fails to make a point. Jobs are the solution to poverty, hands down.
It's actually educational attainment [1]
[1] https://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/how-does-level-education-rel...
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#13Article fails to make a point. Jobs are the solution to poverty, hands down.
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#14Wage growth would help, but for some reason, these articles never even mention immigration. The scale of immigration both legal and illegal I believe has the greatest impact on the lowest sectors of society. The lack of discussion on the impact so many potential new workers is having on wage growth leads one to think they believe labor cost is the one thing immune to the law of supply and demand.
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#15The big questions is automation/A.I.
What about when jobs become more and more automated? What about when 2 million truck drivers are put out of work due to self-driving vehicles? Food preparation, Cleaning, Driving, Construction, Science...all of these fields are threatened by automation. Sure there will always be a few jobs to run the machines but what happens as A.I. and Automation take over and we have 80% unemployment?
Capitalism will be rendered pretty much obsolete in a post-industrial society.
Just like humans gathered resources through hunting and gathering, then farming automated that process, then industrialism automated farming....what happens when 'jobs' are automated as our current method of gaining resources?
What's the next stage of society?
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#16Wage growth would help, but for some reason, these articles never even mention immigration. The scale of immigration both legal and illegal I believe has the greatest impact on the lowest sectors of society. The lack of discussion on the impact so many potential new workers is having on wage growth leads one to think they believe labor cost is the one thing immune to the law of supply and demand.
Illegal immigrants are 1% of the population in the U.S. It's used as a way to divide people rather than an actual serious issue.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Something has really changed. In those days the rewards were fairly linear and available everywhere. But now rewards are nonlinear and highly concentrated. Income inequality (and opportunity inequality) will continue to increase, and we probably need to rethink these pithy little axioms that powered the 1900s.
My belief is that the non-linearity is not due the lack of opportunity of some, but rather the hyper-opportunity of others. The Silicon Valley isn't really an 'American' centre, it's like a 'Global Centre' where for the first time, indiviuals can have massively disproportionate, global impact. A doctor may earn a big income, but he can only work on so many patients where as some global firms ... the yields are huge.…
It's not really hyper opportunity, it is impact.
Impact is the reason why an elementary school teacher gets paid in the low-to-mid 5 figures and a professional ball player can get paid 7 figures. Usually, a school teacher has 20-30 kids in their classroom, while a professional ball player can indirectly influence tens of thousands of kids and adults in their "buying" decisions.
Impact is why Franz Schubert died poor and why Ozzy Osbourne made millions.
Technology can exponentially increase your reach and your impact. Ozzy in the medieval ages would have been just a tale told between towns. If you are a skilled marketer, the Internet is your oyster.
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#18It's not like meritocracy is completely unrelated to real life, it matters in a certain regime. However, if like Vanessa, you're born to lesser circumstances, you just cannot escape poverty by just working harder. Similarly, if you are born to very well off standards, even if you're a dope and spend money from Dad's inheritance on cocaine, sure, you won't be successful but you'll still have a net of some kind. You can always improve your lot, but where you start has a large impact on how much of phase space you can reach, so to say.
I think the mentality is shifting a little as millenials and gen z are slowly letting go of the meritocratic myth, but blaming internal motivations more than context is a problem in the American conception of the world we still suffer from as a nation. The inability of us to accept that our actions are not the only determining things in our lives seriously limit our ability to fully comprehend the world and how it really works which leads us to thinking ideas like work requirements are actually sane rather than completely counterproductive.
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#19The woman in this story is handcuffed by her decision to have 3 kids. Show me the 20 year old dropout. Explain why he/she can't devote themselves to self improvement.
Seems like the woman needs education and a good job more than just about anyone to take care of those kids
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#20Article fails to make a point. Jobs are the solution to poverty, hands down.
This is not accurate in my opinion. And as automation puts more and more people out of work we'll see 'jobs' prove to be a legacy mode of gaining resources because jobs won't exist.