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Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#31

Good news for Erlang? I hope some of those dollars go to improving the language and VM.

Here is a video of Joe Armstrong from React 2014 conference where in the intro he describes how Erlang is used:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQIE22e0cW8&t=590

TL;DL: If Erlang breaks so does cat picture sharing for more than 50% of world's smart phones.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#32

Great. Now I'll be able to use up my monthly data in 2 minutes instead of 10 minutes. Edit: I don't mean to poo-poo the advance of tech, but this really highlights the disconnect between what's possible and what consumers actually want/value.

It would be great to see wireless providers becoming competitors to home ISPs. If some day wireless speeds become comparable, the problem of having only one home ISP would go away.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

T-Mobile still has an unlimited plan, right?

I'm assuming that, like most "unlimited" plans, it includes substantial data caps after the first few GB.

They increased it last year from 32GB to 50GB a month. Frankly, I think even a 50GB cap on an "unlimited" plan should be illegal, but it's better than most carriers.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16334690/t-mobile-unlimit...

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#34

Great. Now I'll be able to use up my monthly data in 2 minutes instead of 10 minutes. Edit: I don't mean to poo-poo the advance of tech, but this really highlights the disconnect between what's possible and what consumers actually want/value.

I was a little excited for 4G, because while 3G achieved respectable throughput, the latency was terrible- 4G seemed to dramatically improve.

IMO 4G is pretty solid all around, and for the first time people are going, "5G? Why?"

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#35
post #19

This is good news as it kept Ericsson on the battle field. Nokia is looking a lot worst though may be it will merge with Ericsson some day. In terms of telecom equipment industry Huawei is now bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined. And may be I am the only one not entirely comfortable with that.

Huawei is bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined in telecom equipment market?

That does not sound right.

Do you have some numbers to back that up?

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#36
post #32

Great. Now I'll be able to use up my monthly data in 2 minutes instead of 10 minutes. Edit: I don't mean to poo-poo the advance of tech, but this really highlights the disconnect between what's possible and what consumers actually want/value.

It would be great to see wireless providers becoming competitors to home ISPs. If some day wireless speeds become comparable, the problem of having only one home ISP would go away.

Couple things- the range of 5G is pretty limited. Getting a cell down the block from your house would seem to be nearly as hard as running a line to your door. Also, with wireless, never forget about bandwidth. Bandwidth is the reason living next to thirty other WiFi networks tanks your speeds (but not your cat5 speeds!)

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#37
post #2

Is there a specific 5G standard? In comparison to 3G which had CDMA2000 and UMTS, there seems to be mutlitude of unnamed standards.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but won't this put Verizon in the opposite situation that they're in now? Doesn't Verizon have coverage in most places because they were able to build early and keep their old CDMA towers in place? With the change to 5G aren't all the LTE/GSM carriers now in a better place to update to 5G? Won't this actually cause Verizon to require huge network and infrastructure upgrades?

The move away from CDMA happened with LTE. LTE required a complete network upgrade to add in the eNodeBs to supplement the BTS (basestations) from the CDMA world.

5G (3gpp rev 15 or newer) does require new hardware but a lot of networks have been planning for this. Sprint has been rolling out new MIMO capable antennas for use with 5g. Verizon similarly has been future proofing before the standard was finished. There will be new equipment required no matter what though. Especially with Verizon pushing millimeter in cities.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm assuming that, like most "unlimited" plans, it includes substantial data caps after the first few GB.

They increased it last year from 32GB to 50GB a month. Frankly, I think even a 50GB cap on an "unlimited" plan should be illegal, but it's better than most carriers. https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16334690/t-mobile-unlimit...

I just wish they'd stop selling unlimited. Everyone.

I want to pay for my bytes, and I want you (carriers) to give me the service I pay for, at an guaranteed rate. A SLA, basically.

Consumers get shafted on these deals. We pay for products with no agreement over what we're actually going to get. It gets tiring :/

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#39
post #32

Great. Now I'll be able to use up my monthly data in 2 minutes instead of 10 minutes. Edit: I don't mean to poo-poo the advance of tech, but this really highlights the disconnect between what's possible and what consumers actually want/value.

It would be great to see wireless providers becoming competitors to home ISPs. If some day wireless speeds become comparable, the problem of having only one home ISP would go away.

I get 50Mbps with 4G connection for 20euros per month. No data cap. Public ipv4 address.

Router is 4 years old Huawei 4g router and I have installed outdoor antenna on the roof for stable connection. I have been with this setup at home for the last 4 years.

I could propably get faster connection with new router but this is fine.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#40
post #19

This is good news as it kept Ericsson on the battle field. Nokia is looking a lot worst though may be it will merge with Ericsson some day. In terms of telecom equipment industry Huawei is now bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined. And may be I am the only one not entirely comfortable with that.

Huawei is bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined in telecom equipment market? That does not sound right. Do you have some numbers to back that up?

it sounded right to me, and i got to this [0] after a short google

ericsson doesnt sell mobile phones however, and nokia got screwed over by microsoft in that department.... that's probably at least a big chunk of that revenue.

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/314657/top-10-telecom-eq...

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