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Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Re: Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Post by random314 »

eklavya wrote: post #48
srean wrote: post #47

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> Panchgavya has a patent from the previous regime Patent on what ? Let me leave this for you from the same article "Vardhan, who was a member of Parliament from the Bharatiya Janata Party then, is now minister of science and technology. But in the years after the conference, the subject received no interest from the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance, which was in power till 2014. This changed when the BJP-led…

> In case you have a change of tastes, just a reminder mine has vitamins and hormones too. Even the PM would be most cordially welcomed to it. Hahahaha, not so easy. Get a bunch of people excited about your urine and come up with some results. I will be all over it, why not?

Will you fund the research or convince the government to fund it?

Re: Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Post by wasd884 »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #54
wasd884 wrote: post #53

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> That kind of work was very poor methodologically and its results are best explained as the Clever Hans effect I think you might be overreaching here! Roger Fouts was (and still is) an expert and I fear you may just be regurgitating information from a study that is nearly forty years old. The book I mentioned earlier was written twenty years after the linked article and explicitly mentions the bias he experienced in…

The tone of your comment is unpleasantly aggressive- I'm "regurgitating" information, you "implore" me to read a book, etc? Could you please keep the tone down, from now on? I will not continue this communication otherwise. In any case, the article is old because the research it refers to is old and that research is old because the majority of interested scientists consider the question about great apes' language ans…

You've clearly made your mind up! I won't be continuing this conversation either...

Re: Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

chiasmic wrote: post #58
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #54

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The tone of your comment is unpleasantly aggressive- I'm "regurgitating" information, you "implore" me to read a book, etc? Could you please keep the tone down, from now on? I will not continue this communication otherwise. In any case, the article is old because the research it refers to is old and that research is old because the majority of interested scientists consider the question about great apes' language ans…

I didn’t perceive the comment you replied to as aggressive or confrontational. I use implore very neutral manner, and interpret the comment as disagreeing with you, but without aggression. Given tone of voice is lost in text only communication, it’s often wise to adopt the principle of charity in Interpretation.

I agree, but I did respond to the comment- I hope that shows good faith.

Re: Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

wasd884 wrote: post #62
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tone of your comment is unpleasantly aggressive- I'm "regurgitating" information, you "implore" me to read a book, etc? Could you please keep the tone down, from now on? I will not continue this communication otherwise. In any case, the article is old because the research it refers to is old and that research is old because the majority of interested scientists consider the question about great apes' language ans…

You've clearly made your mind up! I won't be continuing this conversation either...

Of course I've made my mind up- and, I reckon, so must have you. But that doesn't mean we can't discuss our respective opinions. We'll both get something out of that- e.g. we may hear some new counter-point to our opinion that we haven't considered before.

Anyway, sorry you don't want to continue the conversation.

Re: Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Post by codr4 »

krapp wrote: post #23
codr4 wrote: post #6

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Many occult texts claim that the monkeys of today are a result of back crossing human DNA into monkey species long, long ago; and that they have been in regression ever since, turning less human with time.

I'm not aware of any occult texts which claim this, much less of "many." Can you specify?

Laurency's The Philosopher's Stone is one I'm sure about, fairly certain I read the same thing in Blavatsky's Isis Unveiled. There are more but it's been a long time and I don't have the books available now.

Is it really that difficult to imagine? There are all sorts of traces and stories about more advanced civilizations before ours, and more advanced beings than us. As of talking monkeys, people with bird heads and feathers and so on.

I'm with Socrates, I don't know anything for sure about this world. What I do know is that the pieces we've been handed don't match up with my experience.

Re: Why Can’t Apes Talk?

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Post by amriksohata »

pcx wrote: post #19
amriksohata wrote: post #4

Hindus believes apes did talk at some point, or atleast one species existed that did talk. They were called Vanara. They no longer exist but this literature might point to some species that are now extinct, no fossilised evidence though would be hard to guage from fossils. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanara

Us Hindus also believe that one of those monkeys could fly, namely Hanuman. That doesn't mean it can be possible. A lot of Hindu mythology is pure myth. Do not even try to link it to science. Supporting myth and superstition with pseudo-science has become popular these days in India, thanks to our PM and the rest of the ruling party indulging in such practice.

You didn't read what I wrote.
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