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Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Post by ofcrpls »

xattt wrote: post #2

Is there a specific 5G standard? In comparison to 3G which had CDMA2000 and UMTS, there seems to be mutlitude of unnamed standards.

Those are two separate technology standards. 3GPP2 evolution got merged and we came down to a single "4G" standard with the LTE air interface. It borrowed a lot from WiFi's adoption of OFDMA that allowed a lot of the bandwidth increases. 5G evolution on the air interface though significant, are just an extension of that, using higher frequency bands. But where the meat of 5G lies is in expanding on the legwork done in LTE specs in preparation for IoT. It brings in the ability for multi-bandwidth, multi-reliability and multi-latency applications and SDN paradigms. "Kubernetes for the Network" kind of terms are being thrown about.

Initial deployments though will focus on "FTTH replacement" scenarios.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Post by wcfields »

fuzzyset wrote: post #8
xattt wrote: post #2

Is there a specific 5G standard? In comparison to 3G which had CDMA2000 and UMTS, there seems to be mutlitude of unnamed standards.

4G mobile standard was LTE from 3GPP, which competed against WiMax from IEEE and won in the late 00s. 5G mobile standard is NR (stands for New Radio) from 3GPP. There is no competing mobile standard from anyone else. Biggest change compared to LTE is the formal standard for millimeter wave communication for mobile. Previously it's been used for fixed wireless access and/or satellites. We'll see how it plays out in a…

There’s been rumblings in the BUD (big ugly dish) community that 5G will start to ruin C-Band for TRO (TV Recieve Only). Most birds are going mostly Ku but C-Band is used for backhaul & feeds on a lot of soon to be retired: Galaxy & AMC series.

For Amatuer Dx’ing C-Band offers way more unencrypted and English channels than Ku. There’s way more weird channels too. I just pickuped an old 8ft Dish for free off Craigslist simply to watch North Korean TV.

From what I gather one will need a much larger dish for C-Band in the US to overcome spectral interference or that it will pretty much put an end to C-band in the US.

https://www.multichannel.com/news/fcc-votes-to-open-c-band-f...

https://spacenews.com/fcc-votes-to-open-c-band-for-5g/

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#13

Post by toomuchtodo »

wcfields wrote: post #12
fuzzyset wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4G mobile standard was LTE from 3GPP, which competed against WiMax from IEEE and won in the late 00s. 5G mobile standard is NR (stands for New Radio) from 3GPP. There is no competing mobile standard from anyone else. Biggest change compared to LTE is the formal standard for millimeter wave communication for mobile. Previously it's been used for fixed wireless access and/or satellites. We'll see how it plays out in a…

There’s been rumblings in the BUD (big ugly dish) community that 5G will start to ruin C-Band for TRO (TV Recieve Only). Most birds are going mostly Ku but C-Band is used for backhaul & feeds on a lot of soon to be retired: Galaxy & AMC series. For Amatuer Dx’ing C-Band offers way more unencrypted and English channels than Ku. There’s way more weird channels too. I just pickuped an old 8ft Dish for free off Craigslis…

Is anyone distributing C-band reception from RF quiet locations over IP?

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Post by lev99 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #13
wcfields wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s been rumblings in the BUD (big ugly dish) community that 5G will start to ruin C-Band for TRO (TV Recieve Only). Most birds are going mostly Ku but C-Band is used for backhaul & feeds on a lot of soon to be retired: Galaxy & AMC series. For Amatuer Dx’ing C-Band offers way more unencrypted and English channels than Ku. There’s way more weird channels too. I just pickuped an old 8ft Dish for free off Craigslis…

Is anyone distributing C-band reception from RF quiet locations over IP?

If they are I'm sure they are quiet about it. They wouldn't have distribution rights. Bandwidth costs would be high.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Post by ksec »

ofcrpls wrote: post #11
xattt wrote: post #2

Is there a specific 5G standard? In comparison to 3G which had CDMA2000 and UMTS, there seems to be mutlitude of unnamed standards.

Those are two separate technology standards. 3GPP2 evolution got merged and we came down to a single "4G" standard with the LTE air interface. It borrowed a lot from WiFi's adoption of OFDMA that allowed a lot of the bandwidth increases. 5G evolution on the air interface though significant, are just an extension of that, using higher frequency bands. But where the meat of 5G lies is in expanding on the legwork done i…

>It borrowed a lot from WiFi's adoption of OFDMA that allowed a lot of the bandwidth increases

Um.... WiFi doesn't get OFDMA til 802.11ax, which isn't even finalise yet.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Post by ksec »

This is good news as it kept Ericsson on the battle field. Nokia is looking a lot worst though may be it will merge with Ericsson some day. In terms of telecom equipment industry Huawei is now bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined. And may be I am the only one not entirely comfortable with that.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Post by hourislate »

ksec wrote: post #19

This is good news as it kept Ericsson on the battle field. Nokia is looking a lot worst though may be it will merge with Ericsson some day. In terms of telecom equipment industry Huawei is now bigger than Nokia and Ericsson combined. And may be I am the only one not entirely comfortable with that.

It seems they are using both companies to build out their network.

T-Mobile and Nokia Ink $3.5 Billion, Multi-year 5G Network Agreement

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/nokia-5g-agreement

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