Dulles Airport Surprises Passengers with Facial-Recognition Boarding

Post by T-hawk » Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 5:03 AM UTC

Johnny555 wrote: post #9

The scan takes fractions of a second and has shown to be 99 percent accurate during testing Presumably it's 99% effective at matching random faces to the photos -- if a terrorist group has a pool of 1000 stolen passports, with a system that's only 99% effective at maching a random photo, I think they could do much better at finding a person (perhaps with some surgical alterations) that fits in that 1%. The process el…

Post by toweringgoat » Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 5:04 AM UTC

T-hawk wrote: post #59

craftyguy wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “This spring, Lufthansa announced that it boarded an A380 with over 350 passengers at LAX in less than 20 minutes—less than half of their normal time—using self-boarding gates linked to CBP’s facial-enabled traveler verification service,” McAleenan said. This smells of a staged PR stunt. Or, maybe "boarded" means people were all through the gate, but not necessarily on the plane?

That last has to be it. Every flight I've ever boarded has been bottlenecked at the jetway by people getting themselves and their carryons loaded and situated, not the speed of scanning the boarding document. At best, it means they boarded an A380 through multiple doors in parallel instead of all through a single scanning location. This only matters for planes big enough to have multiple entrances.

Post by Godel_unicode » Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 5:16 AM UTC

toweringgoat wrote: post #63

T-hawk wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That last has to be it. Every flight I've ever boarded has been bottlenecked at the jetway by people getting themselves and their carryons loaded and situated, not the speed of scanning the boarding document. At best, it means they boarded an A380 through multiple doors in parallel instead of all through a single scanning location. This only matters for planes big enough to have multiple entrances.

They always board A380s through multiple doors. But they probably had a flight full of Germans - Americans tend to take a lot longer to get themselves sat down than most Europeans do, and spend a lot more time faffing around with their bag and belongings while blocking the aisle. The Japanese are still the most efficient at boarding though.

Post by mmt » Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 5:30 AM UTC

guitarbill wrote: post #62

toweringgoat wrote: post #57

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Correct. And they're essentially acting as outward immigration, since the airline's passport records are used to mark the unwanted/foreigners (like me) as departed. But the system is quite flaky, my arrival/departure record is missing a few departures - and I think that's where CBP want to improve things, possibly so they can more legitimately claim that someone overstayed when their records are incomplete. (And I gu…

It should come as no surprise the CBP will cooperate with other government departments, i.e. ICE. What would be interesting is finding out how they got funding for this rubbish. Judging from when they had these at SecTac in June, it just made everything much, much slower.

Post by makecheck » Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 5:57 AM UTC